Matt Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 Just now, Romey 1878 said: We have to find our comfort where we can, Matt, because next season is likely to be a difficult one again. Ooooh I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 3 hours ago, Matt said: Largely because our starters have been injured. If Coleman gets back to fitness I imagine we'll see him dropped back to the bench where he belongs. Could we then see him on the right wing if we don’t get Harrison back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 2 hours ago, Palfy said: Could we then see him on the right wing if we don’t get Harrison back Whether we keep Harrison or not, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 He’s little hassle, not a lot of money, and an experienced and well respected pro. We are short on bodies in the squad, he covers four positions. It’s a no brainier to give him another year, could possibly be on a lower wage. But it’s low risk, and we need as little risk as we can get right now. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 I'd rather put a plastic bag in defence than Ashley Young, so regardless of how thin we are wouldn't be offering him an extra year. His best games have been 6/10's. He's finished at this level and will only be worse next season - today was Exhibit A. Matt and Trigger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 Little to spend and we need a decent squad, for me Young is sound. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 31 minutes ago, Gwlad said: Little to spend and we need a decent squad, for me Young is sound. Really? I mean as an emergency option maybe but you can’t tell me one of the young fullbacks in the development squads couldn’t do the same job. The only difference is one of the young players could be worth something after 10-15 premier league appearances. The really bad mistakes he makes aren’t age related, they are just brain farts which a player with his experience should not be making. A 20 year old on debut might play that square ball but we would say he is inexperienced & hope he learns from it. No excuse from Young today & not the first terrible mistake. Wiggytop, Matt, Elston Gunnn and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wiggytop Posted May 20 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 20 Once again he does the exact opposite of what we expect from an experienced player, if Keane had played that ball imagine the uproar. Harv, Trigger, Romey 1878 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted May 20 Report Share Posted May 20 10 hours ago, Btay said: Really? I mean as an emergency option maybe but you can’t tell me one of the young fullbacks in the development squads couldn’t do the same job. The only difference is one of the young players could be worth something after 10-15 premier league appearances. The really bad mistakes he makes aren’t age related, they are just brain farts which a player with his experience should not be making. A 20 year old on debut might play that square ball but we would say he is inexperienced & hope he learns from it. No excuse from Young today & not the first terrible mistake. My point was having Young as a squad player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 20 Report Share Posted May 20 3 minutes ago, Gwlad said: My point was having Young as a squad player. Maybe if he keeps the physios busy the other players won't be allowed to get injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted May 20 Report Share Posted May 20 It's just money wasted to me. He's made more individual errors leading directly to goals than any other player. This has been from stupid passes, throw-ins and bad positioning. For that player to be the most senior and highly decorated one in the squad is unforgiveable. The reason you have players like this is because they are older and wiser and can instruct other players when out of position etc. If he can't even do this himself how can he be trusted to be giving correct advice/instructions to others or for players to respect him enough to listen to him? He also can't run and can't deliver a set peice or decent cross anymore, which to be fair he used to be able to do well. No way he stays if Dyche didn't know him and play with him in the past. Harv, Btay, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 22 hours ago, Gwlad said: My point was having Young as a squad player. Even then it makes me nervous, he will be 39 & I just can’t see what he can offer as his positions require energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 59 minutes ago, Btay said: Even then it makes me nervous, he will be 39 & I just can’t see what he can offer as his positions require energy. The bench doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted May 21 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 21 He's not going to be a bench player very often though, that's the major problem with Young. I wish he was better on the pitch than he's shown because I find myself really liking him whenever he's interviewed etc and you can tell that he's very well liked in the dressing room. But, he's a liability on the pitch and I'd like to put him in a rocket and send him far, far away. StevO, Btay, Wiggytop and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 12 hours ago, Matt said: The bench doesn't. Even that is a waste of a body on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 8 hours ago, Btay said: Even that is a waste of a body on the bench. Not sure when you see how many senior players we can actually put on the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 Longer orthopaedic bench required with grab handles. Sev and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Palfy Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 11 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: If anyone was in any doubt about how poor this club has become, then this signing is all the proof you need imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 6 hours ago, Palfy said: If anyone was in any doubt about how poor this club has become, then this signing is all the proof you need imo. Yeh, and also a lot of uncertainty about what we have or don't have for the next season and onwards. Dealing with a new ownership must be top priority so we can avoid deals like this. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 19 hours ago, Palfy said: If anyone was in any doubt about how poor this club has become, then this signing is all the proof you need imo. He's nowhere near as bad as some make out. He can play many different positions, and I'm sure he's a major asset in the dressing room. No transfer fee, of course, and low salary. Why would we not pursue this option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 3 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: He's nowhere near as bad as some make out. He can play many different positions, and I'm sure he's a major asset in the dressing room. No transfer fee, of course, and low salary. Why would we not pursue this option? Because a no transfer fee and low salary is not a reason to have a player in your team. The Arsenal game clearly showed what a liability he is to the team when on the pitch, he made 2 long square passes across our back line in that game the first one was cut out and he was lucky they didn’t score from that, yet he didn’t learn from that mistake he repeated the same ball and they scored from it, costing us a point and money for finishing higher up the league. I think most people don’t rate him because he simply isn’t good enough and he has cost us points throughout the season because of his poor decision making, the Arsenal game just being an example of many. So for me he’s no asset because of his cost or experience, in fact experience teaches you to stop making stupid mistakes, but it doesn’t seem to have had that effect on him, he’s definitely more hindrance than an asset in my opinion and his lack of knowledge, understanding, for someone with so much experience for out way any positives even monetary value. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 We need minimal risk and some form of consistency around the squad. I have absolutely no issue with Young getting a one year deal. Players of his experience can be a massive influence on the dressing room too. While we have got another year of uncertainty ahead, I agree with Dyche on keeping him around. I’ll also throw in; he’s doing a lot of media at the moment and is covering the euros. We need some positivity out there about the club. He just might help that. Matt, Gwlad and c1982 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 5 hours ago, StevO said: We need minimal risk and some form of consistency around the squad. I have absolutely no issue with Young getting a one year deal. Players of his experience can be a massive influence on the dressing room too. While we have got another year of uncertainty ahead, I agree with Dyche on keeping him around. I’ll also throw in; he’s doing a lot of media at the moment and is covering the euros. We need some positivity out there about the club. He just might help that. Give him a role with the back room staff then put please keep off the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 On 28/05/2024 at 21:16, Palfy said: Give him a role with the back room staff then put please keep off the pitch. I still think he was only ever brought in as a sub but injuries meant we didn't have much choice. I'm hoping that proves to be the objective, just hope there's no more injuries Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Yay. Matt and Goodison Glory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Why I was eager to stay? You dont need an interview for that Trigger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wall Writer Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 7 hours ago, Matt said: Gotta say - fair do's to the guy for letting his kids draw on the walls of his millionaire mansion. Love to see parents encouraging creativity!! Shukes, Matt and MikeO 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 14 hours ago, Matt said: Good little video he speaks well of all things Everton he’s a good squad member Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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