Matt Tiger Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 Yea I’d like to see him paired with doucoure and ndiaye at the 10. Doucoure isn’t perfect there either but I think their skill sets complements each other reasonably well. As others have said Gana can be a good player still but his colossal mistakes are becoming too frequent and are beginning to outweigh the good he brings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 25 minutes ago, Matt Tiger said: Yea I’d like to see him paired with doucoure Christ no! Sev and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 27 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Christ no! Why? Doucoure is more suited for that role, and doesn't gift goals nearly as often as Gana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, Matt Tiger said: Why? Doucoure is more suited for that role, and doesn't gift goals nearly as often as Gana. He really isn't. He can't pass or tackle, and has no positional sense whatsoever. That's why he was pushed into playing behind the striker - where his complete lack of footballing ability couldn't hurt us as much. Put him in midfield, and next to someone as inexperienced as Iroegbunam to boot, and we will get destroyed. He needs to be dropped and used as an impact sub if we're chasing a game. Sev, Btay, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 To each their own. I personally think doucoure is fairly effective even tho he frequently looks like he has no idea how to put one foot in front of another. Aesthetically certainly nothing to look at but he helps us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 Tim is going to replace Gana if he continues like he has started. I wouldn’t say Gana is an issue yet. He is still one of our best players and that outweighs his mistakes. If we wanted Gana out for his mistake then we also need to take Tim out as he made the exact same mistake. The football after the incidents is irrelevant…. Route cause is route cause. Tim can learn a lot playing along Gana, and I’m sure this is where Dyche is looking. Ndiaye will end up the number 10 hopefully. We need that explosive spark in that position. KinL, Matt and StevO 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 8 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: He really isn't. He can't pass or tackle, and has no positional sense whatsoever. That's why he was pushed into playing behind the striker - where his complete lack of footballing ability couldn't hurt us as much. Put him in midfield, and next to someone as inexperienced as Iroegbunam to boot, and we will get destroyed. He needs to be dropped and used as an impact sub if we're chasing a game. When Doucoure first came here I thought he was pretty decent. The decline over the last 18 months or so has been alarming. Gwlad and Sev 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 13 hours ago, Shukes said: Tim is going to replace Gana if he continues like he has started. I wouldn’t say Gana is an issue yet. He is still one of our best players and that outweighs his mistakes. If we wanted Gana out for his mistake then we also need to take Tim out as he made the exact same mistake. The football after the incidents is irrelevant…. Route cause is route cause. Tim can learn a lot playing along Gana, and I’m sure this is where Dyche is looking. Ndiaye will end up the number 10 hopefully. We need that explosive spark in that position. I see what you're driving at mate Shukes and Matt Tiger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 Maupay is a better option than Doucoure at the moment he should be in the 10 position he is far better…..we will find out soon if Ndiaye is any good probably Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 5 hours ago, patto said: Maupay is a better option than Doucoure at the moment he should be in the 10 position he is far better…..we will find out soon if Ndiaye is any good probably Saturday. Probably over the season. It still amazes me that people think they can judge a player on a game or even a handful and that they know better that the professionals who's job it is to scout. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 This is from January, but nonetheless... Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 32 minutes ago, Matt said: Probably over the season. It still amazes me that people think they can judge a player on a game or even a handful and that they know better that the professionals who's job it is to scout. Oi oi oi! We're all great managers here, mate. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 3 hours ago, Matt said: Probably over the season. It still amazes me that people think they can judge a player on a game or even a handful and that they know better that the professionals who's job it is to scout. If you know you know Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 I am talking about the Doucoure now not the one 2 years ago let’s be honest he can’t trap a ball and his passing is woeful. looking at our numbers I hope we keep Maupay we may need him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 2 hours ago, patto said: I am talking about the Doucoure now not the one 2 years ago let’s be honest he can’t trap a ball and his passing is woeful. looking at our numbers I hope we keep Maupay we may need him. That included numbers up to January of this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 16 minutes ago, Matt Tiger said: That included numbers up to January of this year... When I say looking at our numbers I mean squad size we need all we can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, patto said: When I say looking at our numbers I mean squad size we need all we can get. I know, but you say you’re talking about the doucoure now not two years ago but those numbers still show us massively improved this year not two years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 You expect this type of performance from such a young player, but he was very bad in the spurs match. Didn’t do much of anything positive. I still like his talent and skill set, but we should temper expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, Matt Tiger said: You expect this type of performance from such a young player, but he was very bad in the spurs match. Didn’t do much of anything positive. I still like his talent and skill set, but we should temper expectations. Can be hard to be good when whole team is not performing at its best. And then there are the tactics and subs. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, Sev said: Can be hard to be good when whole team is not performing at its best. And then there are the tactics and subs. This isn’t wrong but in this case he was legitimately bad. Frequently out of position, no impact on maintaining possession, and lost on the ball. Again, I’m not holding it against him because this is what you expect from such a young player, but he had a very bad performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 That's true. Whole team including Dyche had quite the off-day. No player stood out really. Matt Tiger and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, Matt Tiger said: You expect this type of performance from such a young player, but he was very bad in the spurs match. Didn’t do much of anything positive. I still like his talent and skill set, but we should temper expectations. Who wasn't? Edit: read to the end, Matthew Sev, KinL and dunlopp9987 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 He's a player. Sev, plaidharper and Matt 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 39 minutes ago, Hafnia said: He's a player. Does it all in Midfield. Looks to go forward & carries the ball well. Defensively very good as well. Excellent work by Thelwell on this one, if Onana was 50 million then this lad will be mega, mega money. Hafnia, plaidharper, KinL and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 He's a fucking machine. We won't have him long I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 48 minutes ago, Matt said: He's a fucking machine. We won't have him long I'm afraid. Gerrard may have been a crap manager but he knows a midfielder..... he rated this kid highly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 Just now, Hafnia said: Gerrard may have been a crap manager but he knows a midfielder..... he rated this kid highly Just as well he was a crap manager then patto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 He was brilliant last night - before we all get carried away though, I do think he’ll be in and out of the team once Mangala is here and Garner returns to fitness - there’s no rush with him - with Gueye and Doucoure possibly in their final year, Tim’s got time to establish himself as a starter - very much like Garner has/did as he was in and out of the team initially. Shukes, Matt and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 47 minutes ago, c1982 said: He was brilliant last night - before we all get carried away though, I do think he’ll be in and out of the team once Mangala is here and Garner returns to fitness - there’s no rush with him - with Gueye and Doucoure possibly in their final year, Tim’s got time to establish himself as a starter - very much like Garner has/did as he was in and out of the team initially. I know what you're getting at but he's lightyears ahead of the rest of the midfield. It doesn't look like he needs the time but it would be sensible. Shukes and Wiggytop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 13 minutes ago, Matt said: I know what you're getting at but he's lightyears ahead of the rest of the midfield. It doesn't look like he needs the time but it would be sensible. He’s not light years ahead of the rest - he’s something fresh and exciting as he actually looks forward and is positive. He’s played in a team that has lost 3-0 and 4-0 and beaten a League 2 side… he’s got loads to learn but it looks like his ceiling is very high. Like it or not, Garner, Mangala and Gueye will be ahead of him as a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.