Bailey Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 A part of me quite likes that he comes over here and pisses everyone off. He is saying the exact things the politicians dont want him to say, or want us to ignore. Not saying he is right or wrong with what he is saying but it definitely keeps them on their toes. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 He does grow on you a bit with his say it as it is attitude even if he gets it wrong a lot of the time. I wish our leaders stood up for us and the country with some of his no nonsense approach. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 39 minutes ago, Palfy said: He does grow on you a bit... Much like a pus filled cyst. rubecula and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Palfy said: He does grow on you a bit with his say it as it is attitude even if he gets it wrong a lot of the time. I wish our leaders stood up for us and the country with some of his no nonsense approach. He's not standing up for the USA, only his own interests, and his no-nonsense approach is because his ego outweighs intelligence. nyblue23 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 case in point the "NATO allies don't pay enough for defense, we are pulling out, they offer nothing" one day goes by "i love the NATO allies, they spend plenty, we have some great friends in NATO" he's literally psychotic. he changes his opinions and positions with the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: case in point the "NATO allies don't pay enough for defense, we are pulling out, they offer nothing" one day goes by "i love the NATO allies, they spend plenty, we have some great friends in NATO" he's literally psychotic. he changes his opinions and positions with the wind. Now he definitely has a point when he said not all the NATO countries contribute what they should in the agreement of NATO which is 2% GDP, you do we do but Germany who have bigger income to play with don't, how is that right no matter who says it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Palfy said: He does grow on you a bit with his say it as it is attitude even if he gets it wrong a lot of the time. I wish our leaders stood up for us and the country with some of his no nonsense approach. No he doesn't. He's a liar, philanderer, bully, narcissist, and all-round hypocrite who insults America's allies while cozying up to its enemies. (And if you ask me nicely, I'll tell you how I really feel about him!) Matt, MikeO, markjazzbassist and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Unfortunately it's looking more likely that you've got another six years of him, if he is thought so badly of why would get the chance of a second term surely he shouldn't get a vote never mind nail on favourite to win it, my thoughts are what does that say about the average American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Palfy said: Unfortunately it's looking more likely that you've got another six years of him, if he is thought so badly of why would get the chance of a second term surely he shouldn't get a vote never mind nail on favourite to win it, my thoughts are what does that say about the average American. What I have always said, they are dumb racist and white. Come to middle America and go to a wall mart, enjoy the sights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: What I have always said, they are dumb racist and white. Come to middle America and go to a wall mart, enjoy the sights I've only enjoyed the west coast and the people that I've met have been so chilled and friendly, California has got to be heaven on earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Palfy said: I've only enjoyed the west coast and the people that I've met have been so chilled and friendly, California has got to be heaven on earth. depends where in cali, central valley and north of sacramento is not at all like that. they have a ballot to split it into 5 states they vote in the fall on it. i'm guessing you were in the bay area (san fran, oakland, san jose) or los angeles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 12 hours ago, tonkaroost said: He's not standing up for the USA, only his own interests, and his no-nonsense approach is because his ego outweighs intelligence. Yeh completely, its not like anything he says really makes sense or is consistent but it just hots nerves with people. In your country and for your voters I am not sure it will ever really be a good thing but when he comes over here, slags this and that off, it puts the politicians under pressure as its headline news, which I beleive is something we need at the moment to stop certain people trying to sweep things under the carpet. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bailey said: Yeh completely, its not like anything he says really makes sense or is consistent but it just hots nerves with people. In your country and for your voters I am not sure it will ever really be a good thing but when he comes over here, slags this and that off, it puts the politicians under pressure as its headline news, which I beleive is something we need at the moment to stop certain people trying to sweep things under the carpet. Strategy wise it makes perfect sense unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 26 minutes ago, Bailey said: Yeh completely, its not like anything he says really makes sense or is consistent but it just hots nerves with people. In your country and for your voters I am not sure it will ever really be a good thing but when he comes over here, slags this and that off, it puts the politicians under pressure as its headline news, which I beleive is something we need at the moment to stop certain people trying to sweep things under the carpet. That's right that's why I said he starts grow on you even though he's wrong or ill in formed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 8 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: depends where in cali, central valley and north of sacramento is not at all like that. they have a ballot to split it into 5 states they vote in the fall on it. i'm guessing you were in the bay area (san fran, oakland, san jose) or los angeles. I was, why so different further south I'm guessing it's a north and south money divide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 17 hours ago, MikeO said: Much like a pus filled cyst. or fungus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 There's a lot of outrage at the Trump-Putin summit on both sides, and rightly so. Hopefully this sparks something over here. Trump made himself and the USA look like pushovers and fools (and we are for voting that clown in). Putin has never been happier. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 37 minutes ago, tonkaroost said: There's a lot of outrage at the Trump-Putin summit on both sides, and rightly so. Hopefully this sparks something over here. Trump made himself and the USA look like pushovers and fools (and we are for voting that clown in). Putin has never been happier. So this is where Americans finally draw the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, holystove said: So this is where Americans finally draw the line. I hope so, but I've also thought this before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, holystove said: So this is where Americans finally draw the line. nope, because i went to fox news and their headlines read it's only the dems and the mueller "witch hunt" condemning trump, they phrase it as " both leaders tout meeting as a success" as if they don't despise russia (they do very much so). nothing will happen. the mueller indictment will be the only thing that could possibly sway those people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 56 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: nope, because i went to fox news and their headlines read it's only the dems and the mueller "witch hunt" condemning trump, they phrase it as " both leaders tout meeting as a success" as if they don't despise russia (they do very much so). nothing will happen. the mueller indictment will be the only thing that could possibly sway those people. There was someone on Fox that was calling him a disgrace, so the tide maybe turning a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, Matt said: There was someone on Fox that was calling him a disgrace, so the tide maybe turning a little It will be redacted and the journalist fired. He did an interview with the fucking S*N while in England matt. He loved Murdoch’s rags and they love him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Matt said: There was someone on Fox that was calling him a disgrace, so the tide maybe turning a little The daughter of the US ambassador to Russia, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 New Yorkers don't mince words. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir McGiven Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Looking forward to seeing full show ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 I saw that last night... absolutely unreal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Bailey said: I saw that last night... absolutely unreal! It's really amazing how he can steer a conversation to make these people say exactly what he wants. I'm sure if they look back at the video they won't believe it themselves. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44864739 he must have incredible neck muscles, never seems to suffer from whiplash as he 180s on every topic he’s involved in. I think for the next controversy (ie next week), we should have a poll on how long we think it will take for him to contradict himself and claim fake news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 ... and his most ardent supporters will believe him, no matter how much he contradicts himself. The most cringe-worthy part of the summit was how he kept asking about Hillary's servers when asked about election meddling. He immediately deflected and went on a rant about them. It's so ridiculous that two years later he's talking about that rather than answering the question about Russian meddling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Things are looking even worse for Trump: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/world/europe/trump-intelligence-russian-election-meddling-.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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