Ghoat Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 After the Dutch, the Norwegians also seem to have a sense of humour regarding Trump Translation: - If you were stranded on an island, who would you bring along? - I'll take one for the team and bring along Trump ok that's pretty damn funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted February 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Sooooo, Trump got the Republicans to push through a change in the law to avoid challenges from the Democrats on his latest appointment. Lesson 101 of a dictator; if the country's laws and democracy stand in your way, just change it to suit your own needs.... He must have got the idea from the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoat Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Sooooo, Trump got the Republicans to push through a change in the law to avoid challenges from the Democrats on his latest appointment. Lesson 101 of a dictator; if the country's laws and democracy stand in your way, just change it to suit your own needs.... Which law is that? If it's the one I think you are talking about, Obama's democrats in the Senate pushed and got it changed from a 60 (of 100) votes to 51 a couple years ago, it wasn't the republicans. I personally didn't - and don't - like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Reports of Trump officials offering individual EU countries trade deals... looks like everyone gets a "special" relationship! All proposals have obviously been forwarded to the Commission. Could be ignorance on his part, or he's trying to break up the EU because he agrees with Putin that a broken Europe is best for the world Remaining question, why is he yelling at Australia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 No, that is a fair point. Honestly most of the things we protest or cheer probably don't affect us directly - indirectly maybe - but it's what we think is right/fair as best we understand them. When things do directly affect us personally, that's when opinions can change really quickly. I didn't support gay marriage really, but that wasn't a huge thing to me, certainly not a make or break position on who I'd vote for. Until my social circle expanded a bit more and I got to be good friends with a couple guys that had been together for over 20 years, but couldn't be added to health policy, death policy benefit from job, retirement etc...it become personal, or at least close to home, and it caused me to flip my opinion and become strongly pro gay marriage. So you were indifferent to the rights of a certain group of people.. until you've actually met some of them. Now you're a gay rights champion. In the same vein: here's Trump voters in Philadelphia who happen to know a Syrian family and are now trying to get the ban lifted.. (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Assali-Family-Syria-Donald-Trump-Vote-Allentown-Immigration-Ban-Travel-Order-412238593.html) ........... nutmegwolf203 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 So you were indifferent to the rights of a certain group of people.. until you've actually met some of them. Now you're a gay rights champion. In the same vein: here's Trump voters in Philadelphia who happen to know a Syrian family and are now trying to get the ban lifted.. (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Assali-Family-Syria-Donald-Trump-Vote-Allentown-Immigration-Ban-Travel-Order-412238593.html) ........... Right. Essentially admitting that you don't value the humanity or equality of everyone around you or certain types of people have to earn that level of compassion. I'm not surprised about that story in Philadelphia; people always have different reactions to the candidates they elect, but I assume this administration's actions will incite more introspection than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoat Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Right. Essentially admitting that you don't value the humanity or equality of everyone around you or certain types of people have to earn that level of compassion. You can phrase it that way if you wish. The reality is I didn't understand the specific impact of the legal ramifications of something that didn't impact me or anyone i knew. I had always heard it framed as a religious argument (due in large part to the part of the country I live in) and was tone deaf to it. It wasn't and isn't a matter of not valuing someone's humanity or making someone "earn it". It's about being exposed to a different point of view or having your eyes opened to something you didn't understand and going "Hell, I didn't realize that. That's not right" I think this was missed - my point in the whole thing was, sometimes when something comes close to home, more personal or you are exposed to something different, your viewpoint can be changed quickly, regardless of your political point of view. Edited February 2, 2017 by Ghoat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Very humble at a Prayer Breakfast today: "The world is a mess and I'm going to sort it out. That's what I do." Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38853850/did-donald-trump-adviser-kellyanne-conway-just-invent-a-massacre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38853850/did-donald-trump-adviser-kellyanne-conway-just-invent-a-massacre truth is a four letter word for this administration. the war on facts is frightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Well, threatening North Korea is inviting one anyway, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38868571 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38868571He's such an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Don't know if this is true or not, but if it were, this confirms that comparing Trump to Hitler or authoritarian leaders is just plain wrong. He most definitely is David Brent. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-administration-leaks_us_589a45f1e4b04061313a1fbb?1z2yceae87f3tmx6r WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump was confused about the dollar: Was it a strong one that’s good for the economy? Or a weak one? So he made a call ― except not to any of the business leaders Trump brought into his administration or even to an old friend from his days in real estate. Instead, he called his national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn, according to two sources familiar with Flynn’s accounts of the incident. Flynn has a long record in counterintelligence but not in macroeconomics. And he told Trump he didn’t know, that it wasn’t his area of expertise, that, perhaps, Trump should ask an economist instead. Trump was not thrilled with that response ― but that may have been a function of the time of day. Trump had placed the call at 3 a.m., according to one of Flynn’s retellings ― although neither the White House nor Flynn’s office responded to requests for confirmation about that detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Don't know if this is true or not, but if it were, this confirms that comparing Trump to Hitler or authoritarian leaders is just plain wrong. He most definitely is David Brent. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-administration-leaks_us_589a45f1e4b04061313a1fbb?1z2yceae87f3tmx6r WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump was confused about the dollar: Was it a strong one that’s good for the economy? Or a weak one? So he made a call ― except not to any of the business leaders Trump brought into his administration or even to an old friend from his days in real estate. Instead, he called his national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn, according to two sources familiar with Flynn’s accounts of the incident. Flynn has a long record in counterintelligence but not in macroeconomics. And he told Trump he didn’t know, that it wasn’t his area of expertise, that, perhaps, Trump should ask an economist instead. Trump was not thrilled with that response ― but that may have been a function of the time of day. Trump had placed the call at 3 a.m., according to one of Flynn’s retellings ― although neither the White House nor Flynn’s office responded to requests for confirmation about that detail. He's going to kill us all isn't he? rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) He's going to kill us all isn't he? No, that'll be Trumpsky https://twitter.com/putintrump2016 http://news.sky.com/story/exxon-mobil-boss-rex-tillerson-to-be-us-secretary-of-state-10691430 Edited February 8, 2017 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) . If we're going down that road, here's another funny one. http://twitter.com/ColinJohnTuite/status/829308374168772610 Edited February 9, 2017 by holystove Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 . If we're going down that road, here's another funny one. http://twitter.com/ColinJohnTuite/status/829308374168772610 Actually spat my tea out a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 On the basis of this the new attorney general is barely literate . Though I suppose that's part of the CV necessary to join the new administration. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38923511 markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 On the basis of this the new attorney general is barely literate . Though I suppose that's part of the CV necessary to join the new administration. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38923511 he also thinks the KKK is "okay until I learned they smoked marijuana" . he's a racist but that's just par for the course for this administration with steve alt-right (read white supremacist) bannon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 More absurd by the moment! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38925753 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 More absurd by the moment! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38925753 yeah the best part mike is she broke the law by promoting Ivanka's product line using the government. Trump does the same thing by tweeting about it on the president twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 I'm telling you. He'll be impeached. I've been wrong before though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 thankfully the courts upheld that his travel ban isn't constitutional. COurts 1 - 0 Trump Also his supreme court pick even though a crazy diehard right winger, has said to politicians in private (who leaked it out) that he's not ok with Trump's stance and treatment of the courts. I could see the judges across the country banding together against trump since he wants to marginalize them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 I'm telling you. He'll be impeached. I've been wrong before though. I'll dance in the street naked if that happens (probably around 3.00am to spare the neighbours the trauma of witnessing it ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 General Petraeus looks to be the favorite to be picked as new national security adviser, after general Flynn was fired. Petraeus has two months left on his probation for mishandling classified documents. If he is selected he will have to notify his probation officer within 72 hours about his change in employment. Trump administration is beyond bizarre . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/14/donald-trump-knew-michael-flynn-misled-officials-russia-calls/ Ok so Trump knew that Flynn was having calls with Russian officials for 18 days before forcing him out. Leaves the question, did Flynn act on direct orders from Trump? That would be enough to impeach him. However thats unlikely since the republicans still control both chambers of congress.They need more to go on and they wont get it since they wont investigate Flynn further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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