Formby Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 5 hours ago, Matt said: Didnt realise we had ex-presidents involved! Friedkin obviously doing a good job getting the name out there States-side. Gwlad, StevO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 5 hours ago, Matt Tiger said: Oof. Was hoping he’d go outside the PL. Not looking forward to playing him. Why? He does naff all. We won 3 games in a week when we dropped him. Matt and Wiggytop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 I'm genuinely delighted with this. We keep branthwaite. Onana is not worth half that amount. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 34 minutes ago, Hafnia said: I'm genuinely delighted with this. We keep branthwaite. Onana is not worth half that amount. Not sure it quite works like that, strengthens our hand in terms of getting a better price but it in no way guarantees we keep him Harv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 3 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Not sure it quite works like that, strengthens our hand in terms of getting a better price but it in no way guarantees we keep him We don't need to sell him plus he's under contract... psr deadline went on 30th June. Arguably could be banked for last year as was at euros. If we sell him it will be cos the money works - I don't think we will sell him. Sev, Matt and StevO 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 54 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Why? He does naff all. We won 3 games in a week when we dropped him. Because I have eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 https://x.com/tacticallymatt/status/1812160759784186366?s=46&t=XQu85goLnIp935iHebJyhw https://x.com/ryansocceraa/status/1812154822906249264?s=46&t=XQu85goLnIp935iHebJyhw https://x.com/wombat_combat/status/1812147254146269590?s=46&t=XQu85goLnIp935iHebJyhw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 4 minutes ago, Matt Tiger said: https://x.com/tacticallymatt/status/1812160759784186366?s=46&t=XQu85goLnIp935iHebJyhw https://x.com/ryansocceraa/status/1812154822906249264?s=46&t=XQu85goLnIp935iHebJyhw https://x.com/wombat_combat/status/1812147254146269590?s=46&t=XQu85goLnIp935iHebJyhw Amateur hour! Apparently I don’t know how to embed a tweet. I’ll figure it out one day! MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 Good money- almost doubled our money an a player that we initially paid a decent fee for. Think Lille have 20% sell on clause. so probably around £25m profit less £5m. we signed him on a 5 year contract, we will have paid out £10m or so in the account. so rough calcs mean we should have +£35m added directly to our accounts, but we also removed have removed the remain £15m liability for the next three seasons. how Everton - use if fucking sensibly!! Matt Tiger and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 1 hour ago, Matt Tiger said: https://x.com/tacticallymatt/status/1812160759784186366?s=46&t=XQu85goLnIp935iHebJyhw https://x.com/ryansocceraa/status/1812154822906249264?s=46&t=XQu85goLnIp935iHebJyhw https://x.com/wombat_combat/status/1812147254146269590?s=46&t=XQu85goLnIp935iHebJyhw You say you have eyes then quote twitter "scouts" who use FM style database. They aren't scouts mate - scouts don't use twitter to tell people about players. we've sold an average player for £50m plus add ons.... I was happy with £30m. people can quote all sorts of Joe Allen type analysis.... the fact is he got dropped for 3 critical games after he was subbed in the 6-0 drubbing vs Chelsea and stuffy draw vs Newcastle and both games we improved when he was taken off. I'll be balanced - he has good athleticism and do a job as an 8 or 6 but he can't shoot, can't dribble, passes sideways, but his size is a big factor. it says a lot that he wanted to be sold before coming back to Everton - after the 6-0 loss vs Chelsea the team and manager had a clear the air meeting and he was the obvious casualty. Make of that what you will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 Gutted because I think the potential is there for everyone to see. I do think we've done pretty well out of it financially, and the fact that the deal has been so quickly says everything for me. Also... In all fairness, isn't this one of the reasons behind initially buying him. Big potential and increase in transfer value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 11 minutes ago, Hafnia said: You say you have eyes then quote twitter "scouts" who use FM style database. They aren't scouts mate - scouts don't use twitter to tell people about players. we've sold an average player for £50m plus add ons.... I was happy with £30m. people can quote all sorts of Joe Allen type analysis.... the fact is he got dropped for 3 critical games after he was subbed in the 6-0 drubbing vs Chelsea and stuffy draw vs Newcastle and both games we improved when he was taken off. I'll be balanced - he has good athleticism and do a job as an 8 or 6 but he can't shoot, can't dribble, passes sideways, but his size is a big factor. it says a lot that he wanted to be sold before coming back to Everton - after the 6-0 loss vs Chelsea the team and manager had a clear the air meeting and he was the obvious casualty. Make of that what you will Arteta Emery and Hansi all clearly rate him. They must only stats databases too I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 This will divide opinion. Some will want to keep him because of his potential - which could make him an exception player. Others are happy to see him go because his performances are not that of a 50 million player. Both are right. I don’t think we can turn down this kind of money though for what he has brought to the team. I just pray Gana’s little legs are still there as we will need him next season. Gana completely outshone Onana last season also. Hafnia and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuffRob Posted July 13 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 13 15 minutes ago, Matt Tiger said: Arteta Emery and Hansi all clearly rate him. They must only stats databases too I guess. we've not given him away. Given we have not had a Philogene type saga, I am not sure as many are in for Onana (at least for +£50m) as we might think there might be. Given he was not a go to player when Dyche and Everton NEEDED players to step up at the end of last season tells me a fair bit about the player. He might go on to great things elsewhere, but maybe he's got to where he's going to in this current Everton team. It also says a lot when most fans are happy for him to be sold for £50m. I think that money can be put to better use give the current squad and finances. London Blue, Btay, Hafnia and 4 others 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 33 minutes ago, Matt Tiger said: Arteta Emery and Hansi all clearly rate him. They must only stats databases too I guess. Arteta didn't go for him, only one team bar a Saudi team offered money for him. So on that logic all the other managers don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 I don't think his heart is in Everton. I think we were convenient to get into the PL. StevO and Wiggytop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 I can only repeat what I've stated before: Stick with what's working and change what's not working. Our defence is one of the best in the league, so absolutely do not change it. Our midfield has been so-so, so improve it. Our offence has been terrible, so change it. Keep Branthwaite. Replace Onana with a more hungry player. Recruit a prolific goalscorer. StevO, Wiggytop and Sev 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 At his best was a very good midfielder who could run a game. Unfortunately he was lazy and didn’t have the right mentality to maximize his ability. A truly great player would be at their best week in week out because they want to win. That clearly wasn’t the case. He will leave and have a few really good games during the season but a lot more average ones. We’re getting a good deal here. Sev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 For me there’s an awful lot of hype surrounding him which I could understand if he performed consistently, that hasn’t happened so I would be happy to see us get our money back and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 12 hours ago, Matt Tiger said: Because I have eyes. ... of the tiger Matt and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt Posted July 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 14 He's the embodiment of frustration for me. All the talent in the world but his head doesn't seem to focus for more than 5 mins here and there. Too much of a passenger for us to carry at the moment, despite his potential. Good deal especially if it's further reducing our need to sell more important, consistent players. StevO, Wiggytop, Romey 1878 and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post StevO Posted July 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 14 It’s a good deal. He is a very good player, but he’s not what we need right now. It’s better for Everton to cash in than keep him. Which is the opposite to Branthwaite, who is worth more to us on the pitch than on the balance sheet. Onana will go on to have a very good career, I’ve no doubt about that, but he was always brought in as a player we can make money on. It wouldn’t surprise me if the reason he chose us over West Ham would be if we agreed from the beginning to sell him if a champions league club came in for him. Matt, Shukes, Romey 1878 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, StevO said: It’s a good deal. He is a very good player, but he’s not what we need right now. It’s better for Everton to cash in than keep him. Which is the opposite to Branthwaite, who is worth more to us on the pitch than on the balance sheet. Onana will go on to have a very good career, I’ve no doubt about that, but he was always brought in as a player we can make money on. It wouldn’t surprise me if the reason he chose us over West Ham would be if we agreed from the beginning to sell him if a champions league club came in for him. Yes not that good that he could make them sort of decisions at his age he came for the money and a step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 14 Author Report Share Posted July 14 Well I'm very much looking forward to seeing what players we bring in once he's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 19 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Well I'm very much looking forward to seeing what players we bring in once he's gone. My concern is that we're not gonna be able to actually use all £50m (or whatever amount we have available) on bringing in other players. But rather (as the Athletic story noted), this will just allow us to not have to sell Branthwaite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 14 Author Report Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: My concern is that we're not gonna be able to actually use all £50m (or whatever amount we have available) on bringing in other players. But rather (as the Athletic story noted), this will just allow us to not have to sell Branthwaite You can be as miserable as you like but I'm going to stay positive until it's actually worth being a misery. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: My concern is that we're not gonna be able to actually use all £50m (or whatever amount we have available) on bringing in other players. But rather (as the Athletic story noted), this will just allow us to not have to sell Branthwaite Either way if we can't use the money then it means we would have needed to sell someone else in order to get by. personally I think we will be ok to buy players, I think we will be clever and get them on 5 year drips. id have sold Onana and dcl together before branthwaite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 14 Author Report Share Posted July 14 35 minutes ago, Hafnia said: personally I think we will be ok to buy players, I think we will be clever and get them on 5 year drips. This is it isn't it, and what people seem to be overlooking. The way incomings goes in the books means we'll do well out of the money we bring in for Onana. I've been excited about this summer all along and I really do think we'll end the window in a strong position. Hafnia, StevO and Matt 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 44 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: My concern is that we're not gonna be able to actually use all £50m (or whatever amount we have available) on bringing in other players. But rather (as the Athletic story noted), this will just allow us to not have to sell Branthwaite Money on the books now means less issue with PSR next summer window, not now. But it's also money we can then borrow against so maybe 1 decent signing and a backup player out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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