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patto Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 6 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Regardless if we try for Broja I want Dom gone he wants to leave I don’t want anyone using Everton as their last option. but I believe we have priced him too high we should have priced him about 20m he would have probably already been sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 I’d prefer he just signs a one year extension but it’s getting to the point that we need to get it sorted. If the two sides are still far apart on terms then we need to get someone in and get him moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 5 hours ago, patto said: Regardless if we try for Broja I want Dom gone he wants to leave I don’t want anyone using Everton as their last option. but I believe we have priced him too high we should have priced him about 20m he would have probably already been sold Has he said he wants to leave? StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 1 hour ago, dunlopp9987 said: Has he said he wants to leave? Read the room if he wanted to stay he would have signed the contract. i think if he stays to play out his contract he will be vilified he’s in for a hard time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 2 minutes ago, patto said: Read the room if he wanted to stay he would have signed the contract. i think if he stays to play out his contract he will be vilified he’s in for a hard time. If there are clouds in the sky I assume you always expect it to rain? Sev, Shukes, StevO and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 13 minutes ago, patto said: Read the room if he wanted to stay he would have signed the contract. i think if he stays to play out his contract he will be vilified he’s in for a hard time. Or we might not have offered him what he and his agent value him at. You would be a terrible journalist Matt Tiger, StevO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 1 hour ago, dunlopp9987 said: Or we might not have offered him what he and his agent value him at. You would be a terrible journalist It has been reported that he'd like a move elsewhere. Doesn't mean it's accurate, but it's been reported. Regardless, I still think it's getting to the point that we need to figure it out quickly one way or the other, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 2 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: Or we might not have offered him what he and his agent value him at. You would be a terrible journalist Why would we offer him a better contract we’ve hardly got enough money to keep the club going plus he’s a possible injury risk apart from a couple of important goals he’s hardly done anything of note. the lad is a good player and I’m sure he’s on a decent contract anyway but he’s not special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 If we can't replace dcl despite knowing that he was in the mix to go to Newcastle I would be very shocked. Surely the recruitment team are down to shortlists - a mitrovic type profile would be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 14 hours ago, patto said: Read the room if he wanted to stay he would have signed the contract. i think if he stays to play out his contract he will be vilified he’s in for a hard time. I agree I don’t think he has any intention of signing a new contract with us, he will hang it out and walk on free at the end of the season, unless of course the right team comes in with the right contract then he will leave, but I struggle to see that happening because he’s not as a good as him and his team maybe think he is. But all we can do is wait and see the window will be over in a few weeks and that should give us a clearer understanding of what his intentions are if he still hasn’t moved or signed his contract for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 24 minutes ago, Palfy said: I agree I don’t think he has any intention of signing a new contract with us, he will hang it out and walk on free at the end of the season, unless of course the right team comes in with the right contract then he will leave, but I struggle to see that happening because he’s not as a good as him and his team maybe think he is. But all we can do is wait and see the window will be over in a few weeks and that should give us a clearer understanding of what his intentions are if he still hasn’t moved or signed his contract for us. I think he wants to move now because he won’t want to play out his contract that’s very risky in case he breaks down again I’m sure if we set the right price he will get a move if not we can’t offer him a better contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 4 hours ago, patto said: I think he wants to move now because he won’t want to play out his contract that’s very risky in case he breaks down again I’m sure if we set the right price he will get a move if not we can’t offer him a better contract. There is no way Dom should be earning anymore than he does now with us or anyone else. Doesn’t mean he won’t but he hasn’t earned that. Really he should be taking a bit of a pay cut to stay but things don’t tend to work like that. At the least his next contract should be heavily incentivized Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 Guys we are talking about a player that’s in his prime years. Forget him being DCL for a second. Imagine he plays for some other team. He is a player in his prime years. A professional forward that when in form plays for his international team. He has previous injuries that by all accounts ye he is past now. Does anyone expect him to be taking pay cuts, or pay as you play contracts? Have any of us actually been watching football for the last twenty years? It doesnt happen like that guys. Reality is, he will have plenty of options. He will look for the best contract he can get as he has just got engaged and wants to build a family. Matt and StevO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, Shukes said: Guys we are talking about a player that’s in his prime years. Forget him being DCL for a second. Imagine he plays for some other team. He is a player in his prime years. A professional forward that when in form plays for his international team. He has previous injuries that by all accounts ye he is past now. Does anyone expect him to be taking pay cuts, or pay as you play contracts? Have any of us actually been watching football for the last twenty years? It doesnt happen like that guys. Reality is, he will have plenty of options. He will look for the best contract he can get as he has just got engaged and wants to build a family. I don’t see plenty of options but he obviously wants out so let him go lower the asking price now rather than the last week of the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 3 hours ago, patto said: I don’t see plenty of options but he obviously wants out so let him go lower the asking price now rather than the last week of the window. I haven’t seen him wanting to go either, he looks very happy to be here and is in pretty much every photo shoot we do. Looked on top of the world in the stadium tour as well. But if we’re going to listen to the minority saying he wants out…. Then we need to also listen to the minority saying teams are interested in him. We’re Everton fans… not flat earthers. Im quite happy for him to go at the right place if he either wants to go or we want to sell him. I’m just hoping the club aren’t as brain dead as some fans and sell him without having someone solid lined up first. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 5 hours ago, patto said: I don’t see plenty of options but he obviously wants out so let him go lower the asking price now rather than the last week of the window. Again, what is obvious about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 19 minutes ago, Matt said: Again, what is obvious about it? I’m not going there you think he wants to stay I think he wants to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 We seem to have got off topic a tad and need to move this stuff to DCL thread. #classicTT on the other hand the talk of broja is just as annoying as gnonto...both were sagas last year and have come up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 22 hours ago, Shukes said: I haven’t seen him wanting to go either, he looks very happy to be here and is in pretty much every photo shoot we do. Looked on top of the world in the stadium tour as well. But if we’re going to listen to the minority saying he wants out…. Then we need to also listen to the minority saying teams are interested in him. We’re Everton fans… not flat earthers. Im quite happy for him to go at the right place if he either wants to go or we want to sell him. I’m just hoping the club aren’t as brain dead as some fans and sell him without having someone solid lined up first. I don’t believe the club want to sell him, it would be strange to offer a player a new contract worth 7 million a year if reports on the amount are correct if the intention was to sell, but it would make sense to accept on offer for him if he doesn’t plan on signing a new contract to take him past the end of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 20 hours ago, patto said: I’m not going there you think he wants to stay I think he wants to leave. Oh that is clear, but I don't see what is obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 3 hours ago, Palfy said: I don’t believe the club want to sell him, it would be strange to offer a player a new contract worth 7 million a year if reports on the amount are correct if the intention was to sell, but it would make sense to accept on offer for him if he doesn’t plan on signing a new contract to take him past the end of this season. 100% and I’m sure if the club feel he isn’t going to accept, they will look at alternatives. But I’m also sure they are in dialogue with him and his agent…. And not listening to Patto’s feelings that he wants out. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 Is Broja related to Riquelme? Jesus fucking Christ this is about the 27th summer in a row that we've been linked to him - the lads just turned 47 ffs. Jokes aside, really? StevO, Matt and Shukes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Shukes said: 100% and I’m sure if the club feel he isn’t going to accept, they will look at alternatives. But I’m also sure they are in dialogue with him and his agent…. And not listening to Patto’s feelings that he wants out. I’m sure he will stay if you offer him 130k a week but can we afford that and fitness will he stay fit it’s a big gamble but then he might want a signing on fee off another club or he might just want a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 26 minutes ago, patto said: I’m sure he will stay if you offer him 130k a week but can we afford that and fitness will he stay fit it’s a big gamble but then he might want a signing on fee off another club or he might just want a change. Just my personal take but I'd be looking to move to a model where only 2-3 players are on "luxury wages" which would be £100,000+ Given our financial status, and the fact that hand on heart we've been shite for years most of our players should not be the on big money, nor should we be looking for players expecting a bit paycheck. Signing young, hungry players on sensible contracts is the way forward IMO. Spending a zillion quid has set us back years (perhaps decades) and lessons must be learned. MikeO, Gwlad and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 18 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Just my personal take but I'd be looking to move to a model where only 2-3 players are on "luxury wages" which would be £100,000+ Given our financial status, and the fact that hand on heart we've been shite for years most of our players should not be the on big money, nor should we be looking for players expecting a bit paycheck. Signing young, hungry players on sensible contracts is the way forward IMO. Spending a zillion quid has set us back years (perhaps decades) and lessons must be learned. I agree I don’t think anyone at Everton should be on anything above 80k so we don’t know what he’s been offered he may have been offered less than he is on now I think we offered Tom Davies a contract that they new he wouldn’t accept it’s like saying thanks but no thanks. Zoo 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SpartyBlue Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 18 hours ago, patto said: I agree I don’t think anyone at Everton should be on anything above 80k so we don’t know what he’s been offered he may have been offered less than he is on now I think we offered Tom Davies a contract that they new he wouldn’t accept it’s like saying thanks but no thanks. Then our players are likely to be worse. If we stuck to that I’m not sure we’d have anyone in the top 100 paid players in the league. Can’t win like that Matt Tiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 10 minutes ago, SpartyBlue said: Then our players are likely to be worse. If we stuck to that I’m not sure we’d have anyone in the top 100 paid players in the league. Can’t win like that The average as far as i know is 65k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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