Shukes Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 Fans hate the football we play under Rafa. Fuck knows how they are going to feel after we’ve actually played a match haha! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I’m not excited about the season in the slightest, the Euro’s have been a welcome distraction, and I think I’ll be experiencing zero excitement for the first time walking to Goodison for the first game of the season. Do you think your negativity towards the manager is going to outweigh wanting to cheer the team towards a win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Gwlad all over said: Do you think your negativity towards the manager is going to outweigh wanting to cheer the team towards a win? I guess I’ll find out on the 14th or if we make any decent signings before then. Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 8 hours ago, Shukes said: Fans hate the football we play under Rafa. Fuck knows how they are going to feel after we’ve actually played a match haha! I can almost feel the groans of discontent from the first minute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 17 hours ago, Palfy said: 54 years through thick and thin, good times and bad, I can completely understand what you and Mark are saying, I’ve said it a thousand times, but I’m still here supporting the team I love, and hope you guys will be next season and every season after. Of course! Once Everton has chose you... There's no getting away now. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Sibdane said: Of course! Once Everton has chose you... There's no getting away now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 Anyone who walks away wasn't chosen, they conned their way in through the side door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 There haven't been many big signings other than the free agents and Sancho at Utd so I'm not worried yet and willing to wait out the market, but by July 31 i'd like to see us make a lot of progress. SOLD: DELPH, IWOBI, Siggy, Tosun, Kean, Bernard IN: RB, Winger with some f***ing pace, striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 Absent a big FU to premier league financing rules, we aren't going to be doing any business until either: a) we sell a big name; or b) late in the window via loans and cheap pick ups. Since we have some pretty extraordinarily obvious holes in our squad right now I don't see how b) is an option. We need to get Moise (or someone) out the door and we need it to be for a healthy chunk of change up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 42 minutes ago, chicagoblue said: Absent a big FU to premier league financing rules, we aren't going to be doing any business until either: a) we sell a big name; or b) late in the window via loans and cheap pick ups. Since we have some pretty extraordinarily obvious holes in our squad right now I don't see how b) is an option. We need to get Moise (or someone) out the door and we need it to be for a healthy chunk of change up front. You don't think Usimonovs nephew being announced is proof that FFP is not the issue some are making it out to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Matt said: You don't think Usimonovs nephew being announced is proof that FFP is not the issue some are making it out to be? Usmanov may not pass the fit and proper test, so this is him running the club through Moshiri. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Toffee Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 So will there be a market for Yerri Mina? That is what twitter was about earlier today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, London Blue said: Usmanov may not pass the fit and proper test, so this is him running the club through Moshiri. Well, yeah? It has been since day one London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 OK, whatever it takes. Being beyond reproach now takes second fiddle to getting something to be proud of for our club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 True, he is very serious about Everton though. Just a pity he looks like a bond villain markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 As per Alexander and Armstrong “kill him” springs to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: Ouch, Is it FFP or just moshiri reigning it in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: Ouch, Is it FFP or just moshiri reigning it in? Clearly it's FFP. Good luck trying to get this squad into Europe . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 Just means they have to work hard. Looks like we’re ready to offload a few already, so hoping they go through. could actually be good for us, as it may force us to look for more exciting young players… rather than tired expensive players. London Blue and chicagoblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 I expect many players to leave, its mostly about the wages, get them off the books. It gives us added motivation to get players we dont need out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 I think the owner is allowed to put more money into the club to reduce the net losses - I know there is a cap and it is proportional, but they are allowed to do that I believe. I also think you are allow to improve the income side of the equation with advertising...so maybe the new stadium gets a shiny new Russian name a lot sooner than we expect. He has first rights on it I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 How many have we got left from Walsh’s time as DoF clogging up the wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Palfy said: How many have we got left from Walsh’s time as DoF clogging up the wages. Is this a bingo comp? I'll go six. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 It's so Everton that we've spent years chucking money around to back the manager and now we have a manager that a lot of fans dislike we can't back him in a meaningful way just when he needs it . The temptation to sell Richarlison must be huge right now for the club. I wouldn't even hesitate to pull the trigger on that if decent money was put on the table for him. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 41 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: It's so Everton that we've spent years chucking money around to back the manager and now we have a manager that a lot of fans dislike we can't back him in a meaningful way just when he needs it . The temptation to sell Richarlison must be huge right now for the club. I wouldn't even hesitate to pull the trigger on that if decent money was put on the table for him. It seems we need to sell Kean and think this will happen when Icardi leaves PSG - supposedly there’s a clause which is stopping Italian clubs from signing him which expires in the next few days. From what I’ve read it seems Mina may be another one - I don’t necessarily agree but with 2 years left on a £120k a week contract it makes sense to sell at this point. Bernard should get sorted but can see us having to compromise there as no other club is paying his wages - surely?!?! After those 3, there’s the really obvious ones who have been stealing a living for too long! I don’t think Richarlison ‘needs’ to leave just yet from his point of view but I think this will be very similar to the Lukaku situation where he’ll do well for us but always be looking elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, c1982 said: It seems we need to sell Kean and think this will happen when Icardi leaves PSG - supposedly there’s a clause which is stopping Italian clubs from signing him which expires in the next few days. From what I’ve read it seems Mina may be another one - I don’t necessarily agree but with 2 years left on a £120k a week contract it makes sense to sell at this point. Bernard should get sorted but can see us having to compromise there as no other club is paying his wages - surely?!?! After those 3, there’s the really obvious ones who have been stealing a living for too long! I don’t think Richarlison ‘needs’ to leave just yet from his point of view but I think this will be very similar to the Lukaku situation where he’ll do well for us but always be looking elsewhere. We're just in such a shit situation due to past mistakes, it's horrible and I hope we've learnt our lesson. Another problem is that whoever leaves to bring in funds/free up the wage bill will also need to be replaced as well as us filling the positions that already needed filling. Brands is going to have to get creative with the way we pay for players this summer, and do his best to get players at a reasonable fee and at the right end of the age spectrum. Lots of work to do for the club and not much time left to do it. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 19 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: And this guy is...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 This summer is going to be harder than ever to shift unwanted players. Especially if they are on good wages. Pretty much every team is going to be doing the same - just look at the likes of Real, Barca and what sounds like most of the Italian clubs - they want to shift high earner, and have no money to spend. They are having to dump players. If anybody things there will be big bids for any of our players its fantasy. Who is going to pay Delph or any of the other players names anywhere neat the wages they are getting with us. Who's going to sign these players!!! but also who is going to part with big money we will want for the like of Richarlison - not Real or Barca thats for sure. Most players on the move this year are going to have to be thing about taking serious pay cuts!! Messi, arguably the best player in the world, out of contact and apparently taking a 50% pay cut to stay at Barca!!. I can see this being a very slow transfer market to get going. who is going to sign players on big contracts in the next few weeks - when it could be sale of the century come the end of August!!! Romey 1878 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, Matt said: And this guy is...? He’s spot on whoever he is. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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