duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 https://tbrfootball.com/report-everton-plan-15m-josh-king-bid-as-bournemouth-striker-looks-to-leave/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Would he come to play back up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Very average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Matt said: Would he come to play back up? First choice left mid. That’s where he’s been playing in a Bournemouth 4-4-2. Constant threat to us on the final day but that’s not saying much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, c1982 said: First choice left mid. That’s where he’s been playing in a Bournemouth 4-4-2. Constant threat to us on the final day but that’s not saying much. If we’re talking about a massive upgrade on our midfield, I’d want better than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, BedfordBlue said: Very average I actually think he’s decent - bit of a late developer. I think he’s come on a lot over the past few seasons. More suited to the left mid role that anyone we currently have. He wouldn’t be my first choice but is better than many of the wingers we currently have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 This deal actually makes a lot of sense to me. DCL, Richarlison, Kean and King as 4 striking options but Richarlison and King would have the versatility to play as wingers. It would give us very good options and at a reasonable price so we can focus on more pressing issues e.g. central midfield and right back. pete0 and duncanmckenzieismagic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, c1982 said: This deal actually makes a lot of sense to me. DCL, Richarlison, Kean and King as 4 striking options but Richarlison and King would have the versatility to play as wingers. It would give us very good options and at a reasonable price so we can focus on more pressing issues e.g. central midfield and right back. In that sense I agree, but that’s why I made my first post; would he come to play backup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Matt said: In that sense I agree, but that’s why I made my first post; would he come to play backup? His versatility would probably mean that he’d start most games (with this current squad) - just not necessarily as a striker. Say we had signed him In January - he’d have started every game from left mid as he’s better suited to that position than Bernard and Iwobi in a 4-4-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Put in simple terms - we don’t really NEED a striker currently as we have 3 potentially top, top young strikers in Dom, Richarlison and Kean but if a more experienced striker who already knows the league and is better than what we have currently in other positions (left mid) at a relatively low fee then it’s a no brainier to me. nutmegwolf203 and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, c1982 said: His versatility would probably mean that he’d start most games (with this current squad) - just not necessarily as a striker. Say we had signed him In January - he’d have started every game from left mid as he’s better suited to that position than Bernard and Iwobi in a 4-4-2. For £15m I think he’d be a good signing but I’m not convinced he’d come without being a guaranteed starter. Maybe he would’ve been had he joined in January but that’s more a reflection of poor form and not justification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 I like him, always driving forward. Good solid rotation player 15m seems cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Always liked him, I'm just not sure he really fits into our system. Its another rumour where I think this isn't the position we need to strengthen right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Bailey said: Always liked him, I'm just not sure he really fits into our system. Its another rumour where I think this isn't the position we need to strengthen right now. He’s played in a 4-4-2 under Howe as a left mid or centre forward for the past however many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 45 minutes ago, c1982 said: He’s played in a 4-4-2 under Howe as a left mid or centre forward for the past however many years. He has prodimantly played as the second striker, linking the midfield to attack whilst Wilson has been leading the line or at least he has when I have watched. He has played some games from the left, like he did against us but against us he played more like a winger than a between the lines player. He must have been one of the most advanced players on the pitch. If I was going to bring him to Everton I would want him in the advanced positions. He defends like an attacker (ie crap) so you aren't going to get the best out of him if you stick him in one the wide roles we use where they are expected to do more than their fair share of defending. There is a big difference in that position between Howe and Ancelotti IMO. I do think he would fit the second striker, advanced midfielder role or whatever you want to call it, but that is essentially Richarlison's position or if we play with an attacking midfielder it will be Siggurdson's position. Its also likely to be Gordon's best position and Iwobi's. Now we can all have our view on who we would prefer there but its a role that should be well down the priority list for me. nutmegwolf203 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 I'd bring him into the squad and move out Walcott. A significant improvement, but not the big move we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 https://sportslens.com/report-everton-and-bournemouth-talking-about-a-swap-deal-for-joshua-king/325940/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://sportslens.com/report-everton-and-bournemouth-talking-about-a-swap-deal-for-joshua-king/325940/ Shame the rumour isn't Davies is a player they'd take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 If we're swapping him for any of our useless players (quite a few of those), I'm all for it, but he's 28 and not that great and I don't want to add another aging, useless player to the mix. Zoo 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 A swap for JonJoe is ok with me, King would be a better back up striker than Tosun, he can also play wide if needed. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 really don’t see the point of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Wiggytop said: A swap for JonJoe is ok with me, King would be a better back up striker than Tosun, he can also play wide if needed. This for me too. King would be a nice player to play across the front 3 and backup what we have. He has goals in him. Cisk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Wiggytop said: A swap for JonJoe is ok with me, King would be a better back up striker than Tosun, Moise would also be better than Tosun but for some reason he got shut and kept hold of Tosun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: This for me too. King would be a nice player to play across the front 3 and backup what we have. He has goals in him. King hasn't scored a single goal this season, bar a brace against Oldham in the FA Cup. I'll be honest I don't know know why everyone is so crazy about signing Josh - he's 28, so much older than I would like and was OK, if a bit forgettable at a Bournemouth side that was fighting relegation. Signing average players just creates more averageness, and is exactly what we don't want if we want to get into the Champions League and beyond - why waste the time on King when we could sign someone for half the price, who's half the age on the continent? Malik for example is two years younger? @Formby is bang on IMO. London Blue, Formby and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 51 minutes ago, Bill said: Moise would also be better than Tosun but for some reason he got shut and kept hold of Tosun. The situation with Moise is fantastic for the club - if he stayed on our bench this season his value would plummet and we would get naff all for him when selling, now he's playing well at PSG his value is preserved if not increased and we have the high ground to decide his future on our terms. Hes no loss to us this season as he didn't do anything for us last season. Honestly not fussed if he stays or gets sold - we get stronger either way dunlopp9987 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: King hasn't scored a single goal this season, bar a brace against Oldham in the FA Cup. I'll be honest I don't know know why everyone is so crazy about signing Josh - he's 28, so much older than I would like and was OK, if a bit forgettable at a Bournemouth side that was fighting relegation. Signing average players just creates more averageness, and is exactly what we don't want if we want to get into the Champions League and beyond - why waste the time on King when we could sign someone for half the price, who's half the age on the continent? Malik for example is two years younger? @Formby is bang on IMO. Honestly can't see Milik coming here to play second fiddle to DCL. This is our problem now - we've become Spurs of the past 2-3 seasons with Kane. DCL is first choice and we have no real backup of quality if he's out for any reason and ayers will know they will only play in this situation. Its a player on the come down who is happy to get some game time or a player who has bee relegated for any crack/chance to play in Prem still. I think King is a good bet for this back up role and prob knows he's not going to be 1st choice in top 10 Prem team anymore markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 As I have said before, King is a very solid player. He is quick, strong, he can pass and create as well as find the back of the net. He might not have fared well this season (only 8 games) but he scored 6 and assisted 4 last season in 26 appearances, mainly playing wide in a side that got relegated. The concern I have with him now is whether he is on the way down rather than the way up. I would rather have King over Cenk every day of the week though and he would fit right into the way we play. markjazzbassist and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 He’s on a free in the summer I think so it won’t be a huge fee. Swap deals very rarely happen these days so I’d be surprised if that happened. I’d have him it’s a low risk signing. Can play either side in a three and will be more of a goal threat than bernard iwobi etc markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: King hasn't scored a single goal this season, bar a brace against Oldham in the FA Cup. I'll be honest I don't know know why everyone is so crazy about signing Josh - he's 28, so much older than I would like and was OK, if a bit forgettable at a Bournemouth side that was fighting relegation. Signing average players just creates more averageness, and is exactly what we don't want if we want to get into the Champions League and beyond - why waste the time on King when we could sign someone for half the price, who's half the age on the continent? Malik for example is two years younger? @Formby is bang on IMO. Because he’s a backup. No quality player will sign to sit behind DCL. We aren’t Real Madrid. Milik ain’t signing to sit on the bench. You need role players and king has already played in the league and scored goals in this league. He won’t need to adjust (milik could be a bust). Sure king won’t be a worldie but we don’t need him to be. We need a solid option off the bench and to spell injuries and cup matches. He can play across the front 3 which also increases his worth IMO dunlopp9987 and Cisk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Or you go for another quality striker to play 2 up top by default. and anyone using “he’s better than Tosun” as a selling point needs to stop, because it sets the bar far too low London Blue, Zoo 2.0 and Btay 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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