RuffRob Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: didn't rate him at arsenal, don't rate him here, sell and get rid. would rather see anthony gordon out there doing fuck all than this guy I think his arrival was a suprise to all of us, and I dont think anybody had him on his their 'wish' list. I get a feeling he was one of those player who was young and had the right 'stats' for the profile of player needed. An element of gamble in his purchase, he either kicks on and becomes top draw or never fills his potential. I will give anybody the benefit of the doubt, but like I said not looking like he is going to be the player that will make us competative at the level we are aiming for. Romey 1878 and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 35 minutes ago, RuffRob said: I think his arrival was a suprise to all of us, and I dont think anybody had him on his their 'wish' list. I get a feeling he was one of those player who was young and had the right 'stats' for the profile of player needed. An element of gamble in his purchase, he either kicks on and becomes top draw or never fills his potential. I will give anybody the benefit of the doubt, but like I said not looking like he is going to be the player that will make us competative at the level we are aiming for. I couldn’t tell if it was a brands or Silva signing. Didn’t make a lot of sense. Still doesn’t. Similar to the delph signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 Wonder what that Silas guy is liked, ey @c1982? Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Last comment I will make in this thread as it’s getting like ground hog day. just not good enough for premier league. The guy hasn’t got a footballing brain. Digne will swing the ball in from the left obviously aiming for DCL and where is Iwobi!! Stuck on the touch line!! Time and time again the guy doesn’t shuffle across. His distribution is woeful and his positioning and awareness of opposition when defending is non existent. He’s not good enough to be a squad player. sorry Alex, you might be the nicest guy in the world but you’re not good enough for the blue shirt. Wiggytop and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, milesey05 said: Last comment I will make in this thread as it’s getting like ground hog day. just not good enough for premier league. The guy hasn’t got a footballing brain. Digne will swing the ball in from the left obviously aiming for DCL and where is Iwobi!! Stuck on the touch line!! Time and time again the guy doesn’t shuffle across. His distribution is woeful and his positioning and awareness of opposition when defending is non existent. He’s not good enough to be a squad player. sorry Alex, you might be the nicest guy in the world but you’re not good enough for the blue shirt. "Shuffle" describes his movement perfectly. milesey05, Romey 1878 and Wiggytop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, MikeO said: "Shuffle" describes his movement perfectly. Only when “sideways” is added on to it ! Need to cut our losses and move him on, of Wenger and Carlo can’t get much out of him, it’s not worth persevering. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 I didn't think he was any worse that Richie tonight and Iwobi was playing out of position. I still don't think he has much of a footballing brain but it is pointless judging his ability on games like today because he spends more time defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Does absolutely nothing. Him and Holgate playing together on our right is an absolute nightmare because neither one offers a thing going forward and are even worse defensively. markjazzbassist, MikeO and Elston Gunnn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Bailey said: I didn't think he was any worse that Richie tonight and Iwobi was playing out of position. I still don't think he has much of a footballing brain but it is pointless judging his ability on games like today because he spends more time defending. Richy offers a goal threat even in his worst games. Iwobi just doesn’t put any fear into teams. Wiggytop and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, Btay said: Richy offers a goal threat even in his worst games. Iwobi just doesn’t put any fear into teams. I disagree, he must terrify his own team. "What dangerous position is he going to give the ball away in this time?" Wiggytop and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 This signing has never made sense, sell him to a lower side and cut your losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 37 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I disagree, he must terrify his own team. "What dangerous position is he going to give the ball away in this time?" Its a shame. When he signed it was unexpected but he was positive at Arsenal. Get the ball on the half turn and carry his team forward with power and pace. Big money on a player who has really failed to deliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 He has tried but sadly not good enough, move is best for both parties. Elston Gunnn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Btay said: Its a shame. When he signed it was unexpected but he was positive at Arsenal. Get the ball on the half turn and carry his team forward with power and pace. Big money on a player who has really failed to deliver. He’s morphed in to a crab when he has the ball, the only decent bits are where he seems to want to only run from right to left, and possibly slightly back towards goal, I can’t remember the last time he tried to take a man on down the wing and then put a decent cross in. It’s totally confusing me, the last game he played at Goodison for Arsenal, he came on as a sub and was the only player in their team to run at our defence and cause a few problems, he just doesn’t do it here, and his defensive positional sense is poor, as for putting a tackle in that’s for defenders surely not him ( or so it seems) Ive said it in the match thread, he’s passed up many chances to impress, and hasn’t, time we cut our losses in the summer and move him on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Bailey said: I didn't think he was any worse that Richie tonight and Iwobi was playing out of position. What is his position though? For me he’s a winger and not a very good one. I’ve seen people say he should be a number ten, but he doesn’t have the creativity for me, he’s played as a wingback and had some joy running from deep. Wingback is probably where he’s had his best games for us in my opinion (apart from the odd decent performance against lower league teams in cup ties), but he’s not good enough in any of these positions. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 I'm not prepared to call time on him yet. If we could recoup his fee and a better player was available for less then yep let's do it. There is potential with him as he does have ability but I just don't think he has a carved out role. Can he become a right back? Maybe, he seems to switch off which makes him a risk. I think the issue with iwobi is his fee but I think Arsenal knew he had a high ceiling. Similar to lookman in ways - if you can tap into the talent then you've got a player. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 15 hours ago, Btay said: Richy offers a goal threat even in his worst games. Iwobi just doesn’t put any fear into teams. That is true but Richarlison is played as a second striker whereas Iwobi is more or a right wing back. 5 hours ago, StevO said: What is his position though? For me he’s a winger and not a very good one. I’ve seen people say he should be a number ten, but he doesn’t have the creativity for me, he’s played as a wingback and had some joy running from deep. Wingback is probably where he’s had his best games for us in my opinion (apart from the odd decent performance against lower league teams in cup ties), but he’s not good enough in any of these positions. Good question and the answer is that I am not sure. Iwobi's best attributes are that he has a bit of size and speed and he can beat a man with a trick. He isn't lightening quick or anything like that but he can use that burst of pace and size to get past his man. He is probably the only player capable of doing that in the side. I thought his best game for us was as a 10 against West Ham, but my own personal view is that this type of player needs to be a competent midfielder too. If I managed Iwobi, I would want him to play 1 v 1 against the fullback as a winger and to take him on time and time again. Whether you want him on the left or right would depend on whether you were looking for him to score or cross for others. I think he played most of his time for Arsenal on the left. He certainly played more centrally and left than he did on the right. I definitely wouldn't want him to play as a defender because he doesn't do it very well, unsurprisingly for a winger from the Arsenal academy! The jury is still well and truly out on him but I don't think you could play anyone else in that position and them do much better. One of the reason James was moved centrally is because he was becoming a problem for us in that role. It is more of a problem with our tactical set up than anything else at the moment, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I think he will shine when we set up more to suit him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 he's young enough just sell him. i would rather see anthony gordon lost out there knowing he's getting minutes and he's got passion, then alex iwobi. it's that simple. i don't care if the performance is the same, at least gordon will give a shit and improve over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 When you've got Doucoure bombing forward making gaps and James always showing for the ball you get a performance likes this On 14/01/2021 at 19:03, pete0 said: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157472186381277&id=56909226276&fs=1&focus_composer=0 Iwobi player cam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted March 9, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 Looks like Iwobi has had a little dig at Ancelotti on Instagram when talking about his call-up for Nigeria. He mentions about hoping he plays in his preferred position... maybe if he showed anything here he'd be in a position to have an attitude like that. Wiggytop, markjazzbassist, StevO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Looks like Iwobi has had a little dig at Ancelotti on Instagram when talking about his call-up for Nigeria. He mentions about hoping he plays in his preferred position... maybe if he showed anything here he'd be in a position to have an attitude like that. get rid and fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sibdane Posted March 9, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Looks like Iwobi has had a little dig at Ancelotti on Instagram when talking about his call-up for Nigeria. He mentions about hoping he plays in his preferred position... maybe if he showed anything here he'd be in a position to have an attitude like that. Did he happen to mention which position that might be? Because for the most part he has looked shit on the entire pitch. Romey 1878, MikeO, Matt and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 Wow Everton lose so kick the shit out of one player, he was far from the only player who didn’t perform to their best, and far from our worst player in the team. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 40 minutes ago, Palfy said: Wow Everton lose so kick the shit out of one player, he was far from the only player who didn’t perform to their best, and far from our worst player in the team. I don't think he's getting the shit kicked out of him, but his bad performances have far outweighed his good ones. If he really is having a slight at Ancelotti then he needs a wake up call. MikeO and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Sibdane said: I don't think he's getting the shit kicked out of him, but his bad performances have far outweighed his good ones. If he really is having a slight at Ancelotti then he needs a wake up call. How if he did say he wants to or hope’s to play in his preferred position for his country is that a dig at Ancelotti, what a load of rubbish that is, publish the transcript of the interview so we can all judge whether that was a dig at Ancelotti ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post c1982 Posted March 9, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 It may not be a dig at Ancelotti, it may simply be him defending/excusing his poor performances of late by saying ‘I’d play better in whatever position’. It’s not a very clever thing to do regardless. Look at Godfrey and Holgate - similar aged lads who have also been generally used ‘out of position’ - yes, it may be easier for them in a generally defensively solid team but they’ve just knuckled down and got on with it and have done well in most games. Matt, StevO, Wiggytop and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, c1982 said: It may not be a dig at Ancelotti, it may simply be him defending/excusing his poor performances of late by saying ‘I’d play better in whatever position’. It’s not a very clever thing to do regardless. Look at Godfrey and Holgate - similar aged lads who have also been generally used ‘out of position’ - yes, it may be easier for them in a generally defensively solid team but they’ve just knuckled down and got on with it and have done well in most games. I agree with your opinion of Godfrey but not Holgate he’s had more poor games than good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, Palfy said: How if he did say he wants to or hope’s to play in his preferred position for his country is that a dig at Ancelotti, what a load of rubbish that is, publish the transcript of the interview so we can all judge whether that was a dig at Ancelotti ? I didn't personally see the post, so maybe it's unfair of me to judge Iwobi on that. My point still stands though; he hasn't really shown anything to warrant any sort of criticism of any one beyond himself. I like that he runs at the opposition, but I honestly don't know what he offers beyond that at this point. It's certainly not end-product. Romey 1878 and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Palfy said: How if he did say he wants to or hope’s to play in his preferred position for his country is that a dig at Ancelotti, what a load of rubbish that is, publish the transcript of the interview so we can all judge whether that was a dig at Ancelotti ? Always an honour to get called up for the national team. I get to play in my preferred position. https://instagram.com/alexanderiwobi?igshid=1e2qxdknr17hi It's in his story yesterday. Little videos of him scoring for his country followed my that message. After that a gym workout. Personally don't think it's a dig at the club. He's also wearing a cool hoodie with a cartoon version of himself as an Everton, Nigeria and Arsenal player. Loads of Everton and Arsenal stuff in his gym. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Got to thinking about Iwobi this morning. I don't see us getting rid of him in the summer. I think Carlo rates him over Bernard and Gordon. I say "I think" because who knows what Carlo is thinking sometimes. I think we will bring in a starting right sided midfielder and Iwobi will be kept as rotation. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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