Zoo 2.0 Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Palfy said: They won’t be paying us any loan fee, the same as PSG didn’t, but I will stand corrected if you can show me what they both paid. What, you want someone to basically gain access to Everton's accounts ?! Of course there will be a loan fee, it's standard practice. Just because the fee hasn't been announced and/or is confidential doesn't mean that it isn't there. PSG will have paid a fee, as have Juventus. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: What, you want someone to basically gain access to Everton's accounts ?! Of course there will be a loan fee, it's standard practice. Just because the fee hasn't been announced and/or is confidential doesn't mean that it isn't there. PSG will have paid a fee, as have Juventus. Absolutely this. Would be nice if Brands snuck in a clause per goal or for 10+ goals as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 29 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: What, you want someone to basically gain access to Everton's accounts ?! Of course there will be a loan fee, it's standard practice. Just because the fee hasn't been announced and/or is confidential doesn't mean that it isn't there. PSG will have paid a fee, as have Juventus. Then why would a club pay a fee to us when they can’t even pay all the players wages, that doesn’t make sense and we have had plenty of players out on loan in the last 2 seasons where we have contributed as much as 50% of there wages still because they couldn’t afford them yet they gave us a few million in a loan fees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Palfy said: They won’t be paying us any loan fee, the same as PSG didn’t, but I will stand corrected if you can show me what they both paid. To be fair, it is a standard thing that loan fee's get paid. Plus a % of wage, if not all. Always been that way, not sure why you don't believe it? However, I'm still pissed at all the loans. Too many seem to have been loaned year after year and then leave on a free. I'm not sure the loan fees will cover the original outlay in several cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Palfy said: Then why would a club pay a fee to us when they can’t even pay all the players wages, that doesn’t make sense and we have had plenty of players out on loan in the last 2 seasons where we have contributed as much as 50% of there wages still because they couldn’t afford them yet they gave us a few million in a loan fees I guess it's a kind of 'meet in the middle' kind of thing. If we have a player who we rate at £20mill on £50k per week, his wages are £2.6mill a year. So they, supposedly, can't afford the full transfer fee and full wage but can pay a bit to lend the player. Like us hiring a car I guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Newty82 said: I guess it's a kind of 'meet in the middle' kind of thing. I've heard about parties like that, sadly never been invited to one Newty82, StevO and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Newty82 Posted August 29, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 minute ago, MikeO said: I've heard about parties like that, sadly never been invited to one Oh I have. Great fun. Spunk all over the place. Only me there though, which was unfortunate. Romey 1878, Palfy, MikeO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 minute ago, MikeO said: I've heard about parties like that, sadly never been invited to one You ok Mike? A lot of your gags have been like this lately. You Randy old dog! Romey 1878 and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 Just been reading up on loans which says exactly as I believed loan fees are practically none existent with most clubs who loan players very rarely paying the whole of the players wages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, StevO said: You ok Mike? A lot of your gags have been like this lately. You Randy old dog! Steady on mate, you promised to keep quiet. Stragely Josh just asked me (we're off to Greece in ten days) how we'd work things if a lustful local took a fancy to one of us (unlikely in my case) Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, MikeO said: Steady on mate, you promised to keep quiet. Stragely Josh just asked me (we're off to Greece in ten days) how we'd work things if a lustful local took a fancy to one of us (unlikely in my case) Josh doesn’t want you getting in his way Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, StevO said: Josh doesn’t want you getting in his way My money would be on that. Romey 1878 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Palfy said: Just been reading up on loans which says exactly as I believed loan fees are practically none existent with most clubs who loan players very rarely paying the whole of the players wages Loans for younger players or down the leagues tend to be % of wages and no loan fee. Loans for decent players to other big clubs tend to be full or most of wages and a fee. Essentially it depends on whose interest it is. A club loaning a young player out to get experience are going to be more interested in getting the player to the right club rather than the financials. A club wanting to loan a first team player for their first team are going to need to convince the other club it is in their interest to loan them and that normally means money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 14 hours ago, MikeO said: I've heard about parties like that, sadly never been invited to one Surely it depends who’s either side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Bailey said: Loans for younger players or down the leagues tend to be % of wages and no loan fee. Loans for decent players to other big clubs tend to be full or most of wages and a fee. Essentially it depends on whose interest it is. A club loaning a young player out to get experience are going to be more interested in getting the player to the right club rather than the financials. A club wanting to loan a first team player for their first team are going to need to convince the other club it is in their interest to loan them and that normally means money. But most clubs who are loaning the player have mainly been offered the player or know the player is surplus to requirements, and therefore taking a player for no fee and contributing to part of his wages would be deemed as helping both parties. Some clubs will give smaller clubs even get paid from the bigger clubs to take their younger players, and in turn they must play them on a regular basis. There’s no hard and fast rules with loans but it is recognised that a large % don’t have fees attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Palfy said: There’s no hard and fast rules with loans but it is recognised that a large % don’t have fees attached. No, it’s really not recognised. It’s pretty much how Bailey explained it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, StevO said: No, it’s really not recognised. It’s pretty much how Bailey explained it. Oh yes it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Palfy said: But most clubs who are loaning the player have mainly been offered the player or know the player is surplus to requirements, and therefore taking a player for no fee and contributing to part of his wages would be deemed as helping both parties. Some clubs will give smaller clubs even get paid from the bigger clubs to take their younger players, and in turn they must play them on a regular basis. There’s no hard and fast rules with loans but it is recognised that a large % don’t have fees attached. Is this your gut feel or has it been analyzed somewhere? Not being funny I just don't think Loan Details are well publicized because they don't have to be disclosed in the same way transfers do. That said I know Chelsea are renonwed for the large number of loan players they have and I have read that they have received loan fees especially for Senior Professionals (Bakayoko, Morata are just 2 examples) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 This kind of shits on the moans about £17m… Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, c1982 said: This kind of shits on the moans about £17m… If true then maybe people will give Brands a break… London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, c1982 said: This kind of shits on the moans about £17m… The infamous deal worth up to. As in kean wins golden boot and scores 40 goals we get 35m. Let’s wait till the full details are out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: The infamous deal worth up to. As in kean wins golden boot and scores 40 goals we get 35m. Let’s wait till the full details are out Or let’s stop being such negative miserable cunts and trust that those in charge are doing their best to ensure we succeed. StevO, Newty82, dunlopp9987 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, c1982 said: Or let’s stop being such negative miserable cunts and trust that those in charge Don't see that happening anytime soon. StevO, markjazzbassist, AlbanyNYToffee and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: The infamous deal worth up to. As in kean wins golden boot and scores 40 goals we get 35m. Let’s wait till the full details are out You know the full details hardly ever come out right? We don’t even know the details of what we paid for him in the first place. We probably still owe Juve some money too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Confirmed by Juve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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c1982 Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 But, but, but… https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1432602839184969730?s=21 Two-year loan deal worth 7 million euros. Permanent deal worth 28 million euros. Bonuses 3 million euros Total: 38M euros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 8 hours ago, StevO said: You know the full details hardly ever come out right? We don’t even know the details of what we paid for him in the first place. We probably still owe Juve some money too. Guaranteed we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 At least it's done early in the day so that if we had things progressing on other deals while it got sorted we have a decent amount of time. At this point, though, the only likely signing is Rondon, which is a bit disappointing. But hopefully we will get a couple more. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 So that would mean, profit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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