Popular Post London Blue Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 If we get £45 million that's paid for Max Aaron's and someone else to join us. I would take that. StevO, Matt, markjazzbassist and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, London Blue said: If he goes he has added allot of value to his sale price. What's the exchange rate like on allots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, MikeO said: What's the exchange rate like on allots? Alot. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 38 minutes ago, London Blue said: If we get £45 million that's paid for Max Aaron's and someone else to join us. I would take that. I'm sorry LB but that apostrophe is criminal, arrest yourself at once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, MikeO said: I'm sorry LB but that apostrophe is criminal, arrest yourself at once! Its' so not. Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 Not to forget there’s a World Cup in 2022. He comes back here he is going to want to put his head down and perform because he is a good shout to play a role in that Italy side. Regardless of what he might want I think we hold a lot more bargaining power than people think. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Palfy said: How can you compare someone who doesn’t try threw his dummy out the pram constantly and has a poor personal disciplinary record, to someone who has constantly shown a complete opposite to all the above. We don’t know what he will be like at 25 but you can bet we won’t see it in this league or this club, whether he was ready for the PL or not at a younger age he was proving himself in the Italian league and now in the French league, but not here and 3 managers gave him the opportunity and he just got worse, 3 main reasons for me were his attitude ability as a player and the PL is to hard a place to come when you’re not good enough. I’m all for giving anyone the chance and opportunity to prove themselves he had his and couldn’t take it. But it’s all about opinions and ours are poles apart on this one. I think your bias is showing a bit. There have been plenty of players that have come through Everton who were given far more opportunity and got far less criticism despite performing as bad or worse than Kean. I’m not defending his attitude, it was poor from what we saw and only he can speak to why that was. Context matters though. It takes experienced players time to adjust to the Premier League and some never do. Writing off a 20 year old kid who was adjusting to a new league, country, language etc.. is harsh. He can obviously play. You don’t get significant game time for both Juventus and PSG if you can’t play. Suggesting he can never perform in the Premier League at this point is, frankly, ridiculous. Particularly because he is a very good athlete who has a lot of physicality to his game. This isn’t Davy Klaassen. Some people think (perhaps rightfully) that 100+ games wasn’t enough to judge Tom Davies on but 10% of that seems more than enough to bury Moise Kean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, SpartyBlue said: I think your bias is showing a bit. There have been plenty of players that have come through Everton who were given far more opportunity and got far less criticism despite performing as bad or worse than Kean. I’m not defending his attitude, it was poor from what we saw and only he can speak to why that was. Context matters though. It takes experienced players time to adjust to the Premier League and some never do. Writing off a 20 year old kid who was adjusting to a new league, country, language etc.. is harsh. He can obviously play. You don’t get significant game time for both Juventus and PSG if you can’t play. Suggesting he can never perform in the Premier League at this point is, frankly, ridiculous. Particularly because he is a very good athlete who has a lot of physicality to his game. This isn’t Davy Klaassen. Some people think (perhaps rightfully) that 100+ games wasn’t enough to judge Tom Davies on but 10% of that seems more than enough to bury Moise Kean. No he’s not a Klaassen he’s more a Sandro or a Tosun he was a good athlete with physicality, great in the Turkish league shit in the Premier league. There’s a reason he’s not here as the number 2 forward fighting for a place in the team, even if that meant we had no natural replacement for DCL when he’s not available, and it isn’t because he’s to good for us. You have used DCL and Davies as examples to compare him with, you do them a huge disservice imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 27/02/2021 at 21:57, Shukes said: He’s just not Everton for me. I think this is it in a nutshell with Kean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 He's tested positive for Covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: He's tested positive for Covid. And his birthday was last week I’m not alleging anything. StevO, markjazzbassist, MikeO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 7 hours ago, barryj said: And his birthday was last week I’m not alleging anything. Such a shame he had to stay home alone and not enjoy himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 https://www.teamtalk.com/news/juve-offer-player-cash-package-everton-moise-kean-transfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.teamtalk.com/news/juve-offer-player-cash-package-everton-moise-kean-transfer Offering a player who’s out of contract and another who’s constantly injured (I’d be made up if Ramsey came and stayed fit, but the latter part isn’t going to happen) is hardly enticing. Nonsense, lazy “article” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Matt said: Offering a player who’s out of contract and another who’s constantly injured (I’d be made up if Ramsey came and stayed fit, but the latter part isn’t going to happen) is hardly enticing. Nonsense, lazy “article” And more older players. No thanks. Bailey and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 I’ve read Juve want rid of Ronaldo and want £25m for him. So they can have Kean for Ronaldo plus £15m. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, StevO said: I’ve read Juve want rid of Ronaldo and want £25m for him. So they can have Kean for Ronaldo plus £15m. Can’t mate, older player StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 21 hours ago, Matt said: Can’t mate, older player That’s one older player I’d be more than happy with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 https://www.football365.com/news/kean-paris-saint-germain-permanent-deal-everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Many won’t agree but a swap deal between us and Chelsea - Kean for Abraham could suit all parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, c1982 said: Many won’t agree but a swap deal between us and Chelsea - Kean for Abraham could suit all parties. I'd happily take that, not so sure Chelsea would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, MikeO said: I'd happily take that, not so sure Chelsea would. Tunchel gave him plenty of minutes and seemed to like him at PSG so maybe. He doesn’t seem to rate Abraham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, c1982 said: Tunchel gave him plenty of minutes and seemed to like him at PSG so maybe. He doesn’t seem to rate Abraham. I'd forgotten Tuchal came from PSG, you may have a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, c1982 said: Many won’t agree but a swap deal between us and Chelsea - Kean for Abraham could suit all parties. Be nice to swap him for one of their good players like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 No way simply because of valuations, there’s about a £20m disparity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 7 hours ago, c1982 said: Many won’t agree but a swap deal between us and Chelsea - Kean for Abraham could suit all parties. I wouldn’t to be honest. Abraham is similar to Dom, and Kean would be a different option to have, rather than a like for like replacement sub. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Matt said: No way simply because of valuations, there’s about a £20m disparity I’d say they’d both be in the £35m region... whether they’re worth it is another matter but there wouldn’t be much difference in their valuations if sold tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, c1982 said: I’d say they’d both be in the £35m region... whether they’re worth it is another matter but there wouldn’t be much difference in their valuations if sold tomorrow. I’ve not seen any for Abrahams, but Kean is quoted up to 45m and is currently scoring for a champions league team. Don’t think they’re at the same price level from what little “research” I’ve done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Shukes said: I wouldn’t to be honest. Abraham is similar to Dom, and Kean would be a different option to have, rather than a like for like replacement sub. I think they could work together and would be a great option against teams where we’d need to be a little more direct - that’s just my opinion though. Like I said, I doubt many will agree but I rate Abraham highly and actually think aspects of his game are superior to Dom’s e.g link-up/ work outside the box. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Matt said: I’ve not seen any for Abrahams, but Kean is quoted up to 45m and is currently scoring for a champions league team. Don’t think they’re at the same price level from what little “research” I’ve done. There’s no research to do - valuations are all paper talk/ agents talking up their clients. MikeO, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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