Tonsta Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 At last we have replaced Arteta Shukes and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Tonsta said: At last we have replaced Arteta Oh no you didn’t hahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Tonsta said: At last we have replaced Arteta Let’s hope he doesn’t get played on right wing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 23 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Think about this - we got Lucas Digne and Andre Gomes for £40m combined. That sort of quality for less than we paid for Sigurdsson. Shows what having a good negotiator, rather than a PE teacher, in charge of transfers brings about. The best signing Walsh made was Gana.... and that was owing to the fact he had a release clause. Bolassie £28m still bemuses me.... we got Gomes for £6m less..... Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just gotta find the best role for him. For me he has a lot to offer advancing with the ball, I don't want him deep. A good solid pre season, get him settled with permanent residence and I think we will see him fly. Captain material potentially. Matt and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, hafnia said: Just gotta find the best role for him. For me he has a lot to offer advancing with the ball, I don't want him deep. A good solid pre season, get him settled with permanent residence and I think we will see him fly. Captain material potentially. He’s got everything you need to be a quality midfielder. Big season for him. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, hafnia said: Just gotta find the best role for him. For me he has a lot to offer advancing with the ball, I don't want him deep. A good solid pre season, get him settled with permanent residence and I think we will see him fly. Captain material potentially. It’s good to think we have numerous captain material type of players now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Finn balor said: It’s good to think we have numerous captain material type of players now I think we have had some bad eggs in the side. We've needed to rebalance the toxicity levels, it seems Morgan is back on board, mirallas gone, Williams gone, lukaku gone, players like Digne, Bernie, DCL, Gana, Zouma have come in and set a good tone. Pickford showed signs of letting his ego rule his head and that seems to have been getting sorted. A number 2 who can push him will help also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Finn balor said: It’s good to think we have numerous captain material type of players now We’ve thought that before.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, hafnia said: mirallas gone, Has he, where and when? Certainly hope so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghoat Posted June 21, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, hafnia said: I think we have had some bad eggs in the side. We've needed to rebalance the toxicity levels, it seems Morgan is back on board, mirallas gone, Williams gone, lukaku gone, players like Digne, Bernie, DCL, Gana, Zouma have come in and set a good tone. Pickford showed signs of letting his ego rule his head and that seems to have been getting sorted. A number 2 who can push him will help also. Maybe I'm looking thru blue-tinted glasses, but I agree. It's all speculation from the outside, but it appears the current management has greatly improved the quality inside the dressing room even more than quality on the pitch. I'm guessing a more defined "culture" and a consistent set of expectations from a management team that is unified is creating an environment the players have bought in to. I think that starts with getting good players, who are "good eggs" focused on doing the collective job the manager has set forth, and their role to achieve it - not their individual goals that may or may not align. And those on the fence either buy in, or find a different situation for themselves. The "toxic" players you mentioned have all been removed from the locker room, or will be, in one way or another - when Brands finds the best return for the club. I think the change in Morgan is a perfect example. So is the Gana situation - where he seemed excited for opportunity that was even better than the one he had. And when it failed to materialize, instead of sulking his way the rest of the term with little to actually play for, he returned and played some of the best football of his career. Didn't really hear public chirping about transfers or playing time from players or agents who's roles weren't as big as expected - Davies, Morgan, Walcott, Lookman, Tosen, Baines lost his job, and just signed on for another year to work, train, and watch Digne play etc. I don't think Vlasic was happy with his role, so he's been moved, and I think the same may happen with Henry with the right offer (I'm sure he frustrated with the permit too) And Gomes...bought in the system (not to mention the charity work in the community) and went from being lost in the woods, to a star EPL CM just entering his prime with many interested suitors. We could have been a one year stepping stone for his career, and that really wouldn't have been unfair. But it appears he wanted to hitch his star to THIS manager, THIS club and play his role in management's vision. It appears, at least, Zouma may be similar. When you add all that up and look at how we closed the year...it doesn't look like unconnected dots, it looks like a plan and a growing culture within the squad. Blue-tinted glasses and all! StevO, Hafnia, Wiggytop and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Top post pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 We get off to a flyer in the first four games and confidence will be sky highly after the finish to last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/what-barcelona-fans-really-think-16466791 Makes sense why we could get him a little cheaper than most thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just read that then. They need £60 mill in sales before end of the month. Interesting how much do they want for Malcolm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 makes Brands look even better in my eyes. used that as leverage to lower the fee. should have been 30m, saved 8m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Fornals went for similar, maybe that's just the going rate in Spain atm. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, pete0 said: Fornals went for similar, maybe that's just the going rate in Spain atm. That kid is going to be a superstar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 This is taking a long time considering it was a "done deal" nearly a week ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 We doing the old let Barca pay his wages for a weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 8 hours ago, Bill said: This is taking a long time considering it was a "done deal" nearly a week ago. Double deal inbound markjazzbassist and DavisJD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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markjazzbassist Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Matt said: Double deal inbound Gomes and Malcolm would be amazing. Help them with their cash flow issues and we get them on the cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 One Spanish paper says we are holding the deal up but no reason given. Maybe we don’t want another player. Maybe Malcolm on loan? Give them first dibs on Charly when that day comes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Finn balor said: One Spanish paper says we are holding the deal up but no reason given. Maybe we don’t want another player. Maybe Malcolm on loan? Give them first dibs on Charly when that day comes? Brands is more than likely trying to work Malcom into the deal. The Yerry Mina transfer was delayed in order to sign André Gomes as we wanted to loan and Barcelona wanted to sell. Barça are really interested in re-signing Neymar from Paris Saint-Germain and are still desperately trying to put a deal together for Matthijs De Ligt from Ajax. In order to do so and meet FFP they are open to offers for the likes of Umtiti, Cillessen, Coutinho and of course Gomes and Malcom. I'd bet confidently that the deal for André is complete, but there will be a sticking point on Malcom as Barcelona try to recoup as much money as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Would much rather Neres but I think Malcolm is the bet at half the price or a loan with a deal in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Aidan, markjazzbassist, pete0 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 markjazzbassist, Matt and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Finally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 CONFIRMED - Andre Gomes joins Everton http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-confirm-andre-gomes-signing-16486015#ICID=ios_EchoNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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