Romey 1878 Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cenk-tosuns-wembley-debut-sent-14153802 nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cenk-tosuns-wembley-debut-sent-14153802 “And given his contribution when inside the area, the message to Everton is simple – get the ball in the box for the new boy as often as possible.” If only he ever had less than three defenders in the box with him to go along with no teammates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/cenk-tosuns-biggest-misfortune-everton-14160369 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/cenk-tosuns-biggest-misfortune-everton-14160369 I hate to say it, but I agree with Emre. We need a new manager, stat! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I wouldn't read into that too much it sounds more like sour grapes the bloke has slatted Allardyce at every given opportunity, nothing more than a bitter gobshite who wasn't favoured by the man at Newcastle, even moaned about him chewing gum.. The imminent arrival of a player like Walcott would suggest otherwise as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, EFC-Paul said: I wouldn't read into that too much it sounds more like sour grapes the bloke has slatted Allardyce at every given opportunity, nothing more than a bitter gobshite who wasn't favoured by the man at Newcastle, even moaned about him chewing gum.. The imminent arrival of a player like Walcott would suggest otherwise as well I thought that at first when I saw the headline but having read what he has said he is right. Tosun will spend most of the game isolated and its whether or not he can feed on the scraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I won't make any assumptions on that as it's something that hasn't happened "yet" so it's purely his speculative opinion which I think is fuelled by his clear dislike for the man rightfully or wrongly I don't think every side Allardyce has managed has had isolated strikers and played hoof ball footie, we've lacked service and with Walcott it looks like something he's trying to address Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tanora Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Hey friends, I watched Tottenham game and read lots of comments. I think Cenk wasn't even close to his %50, probably he needs an adaption period for a couple of games. I watched his press conference too, unfortunately his translator didn't completely translate what he said. Cenk can speak English better than him and they would be a better duo if the translator speaks Turkish and Cenk translates what he says to English. Anyway, I'll post the link and translate the highlights again. "I chose Everton because of its history and my dream was to play in PL. Also Sam Allerdyce wanted me here and that's why I'm here" (About a recently published video of Beşiktaş - I'll post its link too) "I watched the vid, I was happy to see it and it was shot a couple weeks ago, I think the Beşiktaş president wanted me to be still in the video as he likes and respects me" "It was a hard decision for me, yes. I've spent 3.5 years in Beşiktaş and we had 2 championships there. The friendship was great and the manager was like a father for me (Cenk lost his father a couple of years ago btw) But I thought my mission was over. People always have to go for new goals in their lives and I'm chasing my goals" "I want to carry my team upwards and I'll try to score as many goals as I can. (team's situation) looks hard for this season but in next couple of years, I want (them) to compete for upper rows. This year, Sam wants us to be somewhere in this position in standings. We currently are 9th but I see our target as being 8th or 7th" "Yes, we have spoken to another PL club (my note: I guess its Crystal Palace) but I don't want to mention its name" "The difference was, the games in PL are played in way higher tempo and you have to be strong here. Strength is one of my plus sides and I think it will help me to adapt PL earlier than expected. I should have started better and I'm looking forward to playing at home, in front of our supporters next week. We will be better" "Theo is a great signing, he's a proven footballer. He carries the ball very quick and crosses well, it will be a good contribution for us." "Each one of my teammates helped me to settle here. I haven't seen any of the players acting cold against me (Turks have a prejudice like that -which is wrong- and he was probably told English people was cold so he wanted to mention it) and everyone really helped me. Rooney, Sigurdsson and Jagielka, mostly" "Apart from other Turks, I was born and raised in Germany and I have their point of view. Germany and England are similar (my note: at least for Turks) and I think I'll prove myself here and stay here for years like Emre Belözoğlu, Tuncay Şanlı and Tugay Kerimoğlu" "Being the most expensive player in Turkey makes me proud and I want to be an inspiration for young Turkish players" "PL is the best league in the world and its an honor for me to be here" (they asked same question again) "I think I stood out well for 60 mins and I'll be better after integrating the team and the tempo. The ball was always moving if there was no throw-ins (my note: the duration of ball in game is around 50 mins in Turkish league and should be around 60 mins PL.) ________ Matt, Romey 1878, Aidan and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Brilliant, thanks for that My only real concern about him was his passing, but that could be lack of concentration during his first game, in a massive stadium, away from home, mostly isolated... Is this one of his usual weaknesses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanora Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, Matt said: Brilliant, thanks for that My only real concern about him was his passing, but that could be lack of concentration during his first game, in a massive stadium, away from home, mostly isolated... Is this one of his usual weaknesses? He's not as good as Mesut Özil in terms of passing but he's decent. In FM terms, I'd score his passing 15/20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, tanora said: He's not as good as Mesut Özil in terms of passing but he's decent. In FM terms, I'd score his passing 15/20. So was just an off day, cool I'm trying not to get excited by all this input and seeing him play first hand, but it's proving tricky! tanora 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Thanks Tanora. Excellent post! I can’t help but like Tosun, he is the type of character that you ‘will’ to make it. I was happy with his first performance, I think you could see that there is a player there. He was bright and lively, if a little off the pace. But that will come in a few games. I really can’t wait for his first goal to come in as I can see him being quite emotional... and that will endear him to us Evertonians! nutmegwolf203, nyblue23, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Hard to judge him in any way from yesterday - he just spent the game running around without the ball, and without much hope of ever receiving it too. He must be wondering why he's come here so far. markjazzbassist, pete0 and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Until someone gifts him a single shot ay goal, I for one am not gonna judge the lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Hard to judge him in any way from yesterday - he just spent the game running around without the ball, and without much hope of ever receiving it too. He must be wondering why he's come here so far.Yeah he had absolutely no service in to him all game , didn’t help that both out full backs had an absolute nightmare and neither offered anything going forward Romey 1878 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Yeah he had absolutely no service in to him all game , didn’t help that both out full backs had an absolute nightmare and neither offered anything going forward They didn’t offer too much going back either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 A couple of nice touches and a couple of dodgy ones too. Worked hard, put himself about a bit, but in 2 games he looks no likelier to score than DCL did which tells you everything about us as a team rather than the individuals themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacitunal Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 WHO WILL MAKE ASSİST TO CENK? OUERESMA OR BABEL? WHO WILL GIVE PASSES TO HIM ? AND MANAGER MUST BUY SOME DEFENDERS TO EVERTON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 For the first time in a while defenders will know we’ve had a forward. Johnny Evans took a few big knocks off him yesterday, about time we had a bit of aggression up there. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 25 minutes ago, StevO said: For the first time in a while defenders will know we’ve had a forward. Johnny Evans took a few big knocks off him yesterday, about time we had a bit of aggression up there. True, something we not seen for a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 They didn’t offer too much going back either. Totally agree To be fair they were all crap but the back four in particular were really poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Totally agree To be fair they were all crap but the back four in particular were really poor To be honest Dunc, while we are just falling apart I’d rather see Garbutt, Keane, Holgate and Kenny together for a few weeks. Looks like we are going to get beat every week, so I’d rather we give them a go and see how they get on. Matt and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, StevO said: To be honest Dunc, while we are just falling apart I’d rather see Garbutt, Keane, Holgate and Kenny together for a few weeks. Looks like we are going to get beat every week, so I’d rather we give them a go and see how they get on. Same here, see what the youngsters can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 To be honest Dunc, while we are just falling apart I’d rather see Garbutt, Keane, Holgate and Kenny together for a few weeks. Looks like we are going to get beat every week, so I’d rather we give them a go and see how they get on. Kenny needs a rest IMO, he’s been almost as bad as Coco the last couple of gamesGarbutt surely could do any worse than Coco so think he deserves a go, we need to try something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 A Turkish paper has been saying the Everton fans bood him off on Sat. Its annoyed me there putting that shit out. It was obvious who we were booing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 I’m sure anyone in the team would have made sure Cenk knew that. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, StevO said: I’m sure anyone in the team would have made sure Cenk knew that. was just gonna say the same. i remember a video where jags was telling ross in the tunnel they weren't booing him. i'm sure someone did the same for Cenk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanora Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 I have to say I was a bit disappointed with Cenk's & rest of the team's performance in WBA match. About Cenk: He was more active with the ball in Turkey and he was sometimes creating positions out of nothing. I was at least expecting him to shoot a couple of balls from outside the box this match. Send them wide, -even outside the stadium- doesn't matter, just show us something to talk about. Home game, average opponent, was a perfect opportunity for a debut. About the rest of the team: Defenders - no need to say anything. When the opponent team plays so good, you think that they deserve to score the goal and you don't get too upset when they score. Sometimes your defenders are so bad and you think that you deserve to be scored. It was like the second in WBA game. Our defenders deserved it. (In my mind, there are 2 types of midfielders: Brazilian style and Italian style. Brazilians are creative but don't run too much or win balls, Italians win balls and usually run but they are not that creative.) Midfielders in Everton were defending like Brazilians and attacking like Italians. It should be the opposite! They couldn't hold the ball and carry it to flanks, lost too many balls and couldn't cope with the opponents. I hope they play better against Leicester. Sibdane, MikeO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tanora Posted January 22, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 00:34, Aidan Lewis said: A Turkish paper has been saying the Everton fans bood him off on Sat. Its annoyed me there putting that shit out. It was obvious who we were booing. I was watching the game from Turkish television and the commentators were confused too. They were like X: - "it shouldn't be for Cenk, right?" Y: - "well, probably no. Maybe they're booing Niasse or the substitution itself" X: - "hmm" Y: - "they really are angry" X: - "yea, shouldn't be for Cenk. He wasn't too good but not bad either. Anyway, back to the game.." ______ Don't worry about the newspapers here, no one actually cares about what they write. ( In Turkey, the ratio of people reading newspapers is low, we have a population of 80 million and the total number of daily newspapers sold is around 3m. We have 3 sport themed newspapers and their daily number is 300k. ) http://www.medyatava.com/tiraj Paddock, plaidharper, Aidan and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Thanks for the info Tanora tanora 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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