pete0 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Unsworth got us 7 points in 5 games. If you extrapolate that over a season we'd have finished 7th last year albeit in less points than Koeman got. Deserves a pat on the back for getting the points on the board, but feel for him as bar today the players never put in a performance for him. markjazzbassist and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Still maintain that he is coming into a very easy job. Give us a solid mid table position and it will feel like job done this year. And the team is more than capable of doing it. Confidwnce is needed more than anything else. If you can motivate the team you are 75% there. It’s a great move by Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 40 minutes ago, Shukes said: Still maintain that he is coming into a very easy job. Give us a solid mid table position and it will feel like job done this year. And the team is more than capable of doing it. Confidwnce is needed more than anything else. If you can motivate the team you are 75% there. It’s a great move by Sam. Yep. All he has to do is solidify the backline and we have enough in the team to do the rest. Although making the backline solid is a task in itself. If he sorts the backline and finds the right balance in the rest of the team, we'll pick up more than enough points to finish in the top half. Possibly push for 7th by the end of the season. Overall our season is done, just pride to fight for really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Shukes said: Still maintain that he is coming into a very easy job. Give us a solid mid table position and it will feel like job done this year. And the team is more than capable of doing it. Confidwnce is needed more than anything else. If you can motivate the team you are 75% there. It’s a great move by Sam. I think it is easy for him to come in, finish midtable and claim he 'saved' us - which will be ironic considering he takes us over in 13th, a win away from the top half. What is far from easy is getting us back to where everyone expected us to be at the start of the season, pushing the top 6. He has a massive job to do recruitment wise, loads of dead wood and dross to clear out, and he also has to show he can develop some of the best youngsters in the country into genuine top flight talent. This season is a free hit for him, provided he doesn't cock it up and get us relegated. Next season I think he'll find he's out of his depth matching the club's ambitions. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 He will make us tougher to beat, tighten us up at the back, that will give us confidence to play more attacking football. A few wins, some additions in January and we will be fine. My main concern is who has say over transfers, I do not want "Allardyce" type players brought in so I hope that Walsh is the man bringing in the new recruits. With the exception of coco I am happy with the players we got in the summer, they haven't all adapted to the league or us yet , but I believe they all will contribute. 18 month contract means there is a good chance he will be gone in the summer and with the world cup ending then as well we will get a more Everton type manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 He won't be here long and hopefully he will sort out the defense while he is here. Lets just hope thats enough to keep us out of the relegation battle. Im fairly sure that we will see Ralf Rangnick in charge of Everton next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 26 minutes ago, Peter H said: He won't be here long and hopefully he will sort out the defense while he is here. Lets just hope thats enough to keep us out of the relegation battle. Im fairly sure that we will see Ralf Rangnick in charge of Everton next season. What makes you say that? Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 There is always the fear that if he has a good season they will give him an extended contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42143827 Not sure this has been posted yet? His win percentage is hardly inspiring... 13 hours ago, Paddock said: That’s a disgrace if true- some our fans are absolute gobshites and need a fucking reality check. As much as I dislike the man, I'd still keep my opinion to myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, Bill said: There is always the fear that if he has a good season they will give him an extended contract. If he does, I've got a lot of humble pie to eat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 32 minutes ago, Bill said: There is always the fear that if he has a good season they will give him an extended contract. If he does do well why wouldn’t we give him one? If he managed to win us the FA Cup and finish innthe top 8 then challenge for top 6 the season after I would want him to get one. I’m not arsed who manages us as long as they’re successful. I think it’s a mute point anyway as none of the above will happen BUT if he was successful we would be stupid to get rid of him - uttery snobbery at it’s finest if we did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, London Blue said: What makes you say that? Its in the Tea leafs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Peter H said: Its in the Tea leafs Thiefs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, London Blue said: Thiefs? Put the siren away LB. Relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 He is here. So that is that. Just need to get summer when we will have time to breathe, reflect, and come up with a long term plan to prevent what happened at the beginning of this season from ever happening again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Just checking Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Sam Allardyce signs 18-month deal with Everton http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42186164 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 better than a 3 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Just doesn't feel right this. Somehow can't get my head around the idea of him being our manager. It feels like we've stepped back in time about 15 years. I'll probably never like him, I hope I can one day take my hat off to him and say he did a decent job. I just hope to fuck it doesn't end up being a very expensive mistake. I can see him walking off in May 2019 a much richer man with us mired in 10th and a squad full of overpaid lumpers, wondering what the fuck happened to our dreams of being the 7th big Prem club. I really hope I'm wrong. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, nogs said: Just doesn't feel right this. Somehow can't get my head around the idea of him being our manager. It feels like we've stepped back in time about 15 years. I'll probably never like him, I hope I can one day take my hat off to him and say he did a decent job. I just hope to fuck it doesn't end up being a very expensive mistake. I can see him walking off in May 2019 a much richer man with us mired in 10th and a squad full over overpaid pumper, wondering what the fuck happened to our dreams of being the 7th big Prem club. I really hope I'm wrong. minimum to get a contract extension is Europe or Cup win for me. Anything other than that and i'd rather find someone else next next summer. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 He’s here now. Simple as that. Ill get behind him and I hope he proves me wrong and is successful here. Not my first choice or even in the top five, but it’s not my decision. I live, and love Everton, I don’t just support them. My club comes before any manager or player, always has and always will do. Lets see what you can do Big Sam, prove a lot of us wrong and we’ll at least accept you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Everton's ambition was the key says new Blues manager Sam Allardyce http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-ambition-key-says-new-13978594#ICID=ios_EchoNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/farhad-moshiri-explains-sam-allardyce-13978656Glad he mentioned Unsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Everton's ambition was the key says new Blues manager Sam Allardycehttp://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-ambition-key-says-new-13978594#ICID=ios_EchoNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other Liar. It was all about the money. He retired when he left Palace because he wanted to be able to enjoy his life while he was still relatively young. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Even this interview makes it seem like he understands that he is a part of righting the ship in a long term project. Honestly, so long as he's still got the fire in our belly, he can do a lot to refocus our fundamentals, build the players confidence, rescue the season a bit, and leave a pretty good dish to serve up for the next guy. One thing: It will just need to be decided VERY quickly after the season ends (maybe before the season ends) if he is going to stay on in 2018/2019 or leave after six months and take his payday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I’m sure there is an option for both parties to end his contract at the end of the season for a big payoff. Ive made my peace with him being here. I’ve got a lot more confidence into going to anfield and not just roll over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I think the big test for Big Sam will be how we do against the decent sides away from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted November 30, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Bailey said: I think the big test for Big Sam will be how we do against the decent sides away from home. Any side away from home more like seeing as we haven’t beaten any fucker away since January. chicagoblue, Quinn31, pete0 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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