Newty82 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 The difference is that their lad took the shot on when he had the time and space and ours didn't. That was the most frustrating thing about today, a reluctance to pull the trigger. Yeah, exactly. Far too much messing around instead of just putting laces through when the opportunity was there. I don't want to go directly at Barkley, but for a player who is supposed to be 2 footed...well, that brain needs to be a lot quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I'm not upset by this. I don't rate this competition. I do worry that the poor form might carry over to the weekend. Let's push for the top 4 and a deep FA Cup run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Have you been drinking Dunc??? No I took my daughter so drove , just fuming at the total ineptitude of that performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 How the fuck is it ridiculous? I don't know where you were sat but people were nearly coming to blows by me. Barkley was crucified again and Gerry was getting the same treatment Surely that's the fault of grown men in the stands rather than anything else? So basically, anytime we lose this season, the atmosphere is going to go sour and fans are going to fight amongst themselves? Think I'll swerve introducing my little lad to that. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 No I took my daughter so drove , just fuming at the total ineptitude of that performance OK. You just seem so much more angry and animated than at any other time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Back to reality no one good enough to fill Roms boots surly Koeman should have seen we urgently needed a big name striker and made that his priority in the transfer window instead he wasted his time chasing a midfielder who didn't want to come here and I hope no one's going to say Valencia was that player. Really pissed off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I respect how you feel, but I think you'll feel differently tomorrow when you've calmed down a bit. Sure it'd be nice to have gone through, but we played better than Norwich, they had 2 shots and they both went in (one of them very luckily), and sometimes shit like this happens. There's no need to call the manager a "stupid Dutch prick" or to say the "doom and gloom" of the later Martinez era is back. We're going to do very well this season, it's obvious. Yeah fair enough, I'm probably just as fuming with myself for believing we had a manager who was going to actually try and win this trophy As for the doom and gloom I can assure you it was well and truly back in the section of the ground I sit in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 The difference is that their lad took the shot on when he had the time and space and ours didn't. That was the most frustrating thing about today, a reluctance to pull the trigger. Barkley's a big problem in this regard. If we judge by how he plays, he prefers tricky-dribbles past at least 3 opponents over scoring goals. That can't be literally true, but it's how he plays, more often than not. Koeman referred to this once early in the season (might have been pre-season), so I'd guess today's performance by Ross will not sit well with the manager. I can't claim Barkley was the only "reluctant" today, but he apparently passed up several obvious opportunities. Too frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Back to reality no one good enough to fill Roms boots surly Koeman should have seen we urgently needed a big name striker and made that his priority in the transfer window instead he wasted his time chasing a midfielder who didn't want to come here and I hope no one's going to say Valencia was that player. Really pissed off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 How the fuck is it ridiculous? I don't know where you were sat but people were nearly coming to blows by me. Barkley was crucified again and Gerry was getting the same treatment I'd wager he was sat at home. Nothing less than I expected to be honest. Seen the line up and it had shite all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Surely that's the fault of grown men in the stands rather than anything else? So basically, anytime we lose this season, the atmosphere is going to go sour and fans are going to fight amongst themselves? Think I'll swerve introducing my little lad to that. I'm not condoning the behaviour, far from it, I had my 9 year old daughter with me and I don't want her seeing that shite It's another reason I hate this competition, most sensible season ticket holders swerve it and so you end up sitting next to some right tit who just comes to hurl abuse at Barkley or whatever player he dislikes rather than get behind the team That's when things start kicking off amongst our own fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I'm not condoning the behaviour, far from it, I had my 9 year old daughter with me and I don't want her seeing that shite It's another reason I hate this competition, most sensible season ticket holders swerve it and so you end up sitting next to some right tit who just comes to hurl abuse at Barkley or whatever player he dislikes rather than get behind the team That's when things start kicking off amongst our own fans Ah I get you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Many won't like this, but I'll restate what I wrote last year: The League Cup is worthless. The prize money is next to nothing. The prestige is next to nothing. It is anything but strategic to any team of note (which is why there are so many "upsets"). It's a major distraction from doing well in the Prem. Once we're over the pain of losing to a Championship second team, we'll realize this was a blessing in disguise. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I missed the whole thing and just found out the godawful news. What the fuck happened??!! Pretty bummed about this TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Many won't like this, but I'll restate what I wrote last year: The League Cup is worthless. The prize money is next to nothing. The prestige is next to nothing. It is anything but strategic to any team of note (which is why there are so many "upsets"). It's a major distraction from doing well in the Prem. Once we're over the pain of losing to a Championship second team, we'll realize this was a blessing in disguise. Yeah fuck winning a trophy and getting into Europe, why would anyone want that shit when you could finish mid table and not be able to attract players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Many won't like this, but I'll restate what I wrote last year: The League Cup is worthless. The prize money is next to nothing. The prestige is next to nothing. It is anything but strategic to any team of note (which is why there are so many "upsets"). It's a major distraction from doing well in the Prem. Once we're over the pain of losing to a Championship second team, we'll realize this was a blessing in disguise. As you do, you come from a 'business' point of view. As an Evertonian, I genuinely want to win this cup! We've never won it. I'd love to win it. Actually, when you've won one cup in 30 odd years...this little bugger would be hugely welcomed! Yes, from a 'business' point of view it's low priority. But for fans...don't underestimate how much we'd like to win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 We've won the fa cup in my life I'd fuckin love to win this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I actually take a bit of perverse pleasure in us never winning it and go along with Steve's view to a point. Certainly it's a route into a European competition (that most clubs don't want to be in) but it's also always for me, even more so in recent years, been the Mickey Mouse Cup. We've had five goes at winning the final (replays included) and it seems it's just not to be. The fact that Liverpool have won the thing more times than anyone else just devalues it further, big congrats on winning the trophy where everyone plays their reserves! I realise we want our day at Wembley, I'm lucky enough to have them in my locker, but I've just come to terms with the fact that if I live to 150 we're never going to win this thing. We move on. Isaiah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Ha ha just when I was starting to calm down I read that people are turning their noses up at the thought of winning any trophy after we've gone 21 years without silverware And then I also remember Koeman actually started with Mori at left back tonight Think I will go to bed and pretend tonight never happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 That was just awful. I walked out before the end and I very rarely do that. An absolute waste of money and my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 And then I also remember Koeman actually started with Mori at left back tonight. I was happy with our lineup, believed those starters should and would win, especially against a Championship team with far more changes from their previous match, a whole new lineup. But I was very surprised to see Funes Mori at LB. My first thought was 3 at the back (Holgate, Williams, Funes Mori), with Coleman and, uh, Cleverley at wings, and, uh......... Strange, FM, at LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 As you do, you come from a 'business' point of view. As an Evertonian, I genuinely want to win this cup! We've never won it. I'd love to win it. Actually, when you've won one cup in 30 odd years...this little bugger would be hugely welcomed! Yes, from a 'business' point of view it's low priority. But for fans...don't underestimate how much we'd like to win it. ^ I agree with what this bloody wanker said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Setting aside personal feelings about the "value" of this cup, I guess what worries me (without seeing this game) is WTF happened to this new EFC side? I Hope this isn't a sign of things to come. A loss is a loss - I don't give a crepe if its a friendly or a final, we need to show we can score goals and shut down opponents. Sum'n'bitch. Sum'n'bitch. Sum'n'bitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Setting aside personal feelings about the "value" of this cup, I guess what worries me (without seeing this game) is WTF happened to this new EFC side? I Hope this isn't a sign of things to come. A loss is a loss - I don't give a crepe if its a friendly or a final, we need to show we can score goals and shut down opponents. Sum'n'bitch. Sum'n'bitch. Sum'n'bitches. It was a side of backups. Coleman stek Williams Gana Barkley the only starters. That means half the team were backups. Nothing to worry about just shows that we don't have the depth we think. Lennon and funes Mori could find themselves gone in the near future as they don't fit Koemans style of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 A bit of emotion clearly on here from last night. I would be angry having paid to watch that last night too. On the other hand that team on the pitch last night should have been good enough to beat any championship side. Especially a side that had made 10 changes. I was annoyed last night but not pissed off. Naisy goal a fluke and the other a worldly. It's not as if they played us off the park. I will take take this loss on the chin if it means 7 points from the next 3 games. Remember guy's we are now title challengers so we don't need this cup ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/20/ronald-koeman-everton-norwich-efl-cup-alex-neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 They don't but he hasn't had time to get rid of them. And a few more with them. [emoji15]Koeman brought Valencia in late on deadline day so your right he definitely didn't have time to get rid of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/20/ronald-koeman-everton-norwich-efl-cup-alex-neil It was kind of surreal when Naismith got that round of applause especially as most of us knew then that he had just dumped us out of the cup Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 It was kind of surreal when Naismith got that round of applause especially as most of us knew then that he had just dumped us out of the cup I didn't clap him, I was still too stunned at us conceding the goal . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 really glad I've found no way to watch this colo-rectal exam. BeIn Sports. For next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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