Paddock Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 And can't we just kick Pad while his phone is playing up? Go on, give it a go, it's fun! Good call Shukes, volley away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 ACM/DCM does my fucking head in. What's wrong with just being a midfielder? Players like Kroos and Alonso can do everything, why pigeon hole them? Keane, Vieira, could do the lot. Why be one or the other unless your game is limited? Matt, Lowensda and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 My perfect midfield would be a completely interchangeable and dynamic 3. All can defend, all can pass, all can be in the right place at the right time. Would love a trio that could form a partnership where they're all on the same level and just 'know' when to do their roles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Exactly that! Three tall lads, all with pace, who can tackle, pass, dribble and shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 ACM/DCM does my fucking head in. What's wrong with just being a midfielder? Players like Kroos and Alonso can do everything, why pigeon hole them? Keane, Vieira, could do the lot. Why be one or the other unless your game is limited? Because that's the modern game. Rafa was fired because he played 3 creative attacking mids in their midfield and their defense was getting hammered. They had no DCM, the press, pundits, other teams were roasting them alive because Kroos and the like cannot defend. Once zidane was put in the first thing he did was put Casemiro in and boom, they started defending well and having clean sheets because he benched James to have a DCM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Yep. Modern game. DCM is more essential now as both right and left backs are more like wingers! Although, in general life, I do tend to dislike pigeon holeing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) Forget the position, I just hate the fucking name. It's the FIFA generation, ten years ago there was players who would sit in the midfield and put tackles in and sit deep. They used to be called a midfielder. Now you have to be a DCM or and ACM. It's just nonsense. No one uses to call Scholes an ACM. The same as playing 4231, it's no different from 433, but now everything has names that are just crap from computer games. Edited August 5, 2016 by StevO MikeO and Johnsy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Forget the position, I just hate the fucking name. It's the FIFA generation, ten years ago there was players who would sit in the midfield and put tackles in and sit deep. They used to be called a midfielder. Now you have to be a DCM or and ACM. It's just nonsense. No one uses to call Scholes an ACM. The same as playing 4231, it's no different from 433, but now everything has names that are just crap from computer games. To be honest, I use the terminology to better describe the type of player I mean. Striker/midfielder/defender tags are just too generic since there's lots of variations on each position. You've even got sweeper 'keeper now too ffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 To be honest, I use the terminology to better describe the type of player I mean. Striker/midfielder/defender tags are just too generic since there's lots of variations on each position. You've even got sweeper 'keeper now too ffs! This is why I use it. But the doesn't mean I agree with it (the terms used). Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Sorry I opened my mouth now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Sorry I opened my mouth now. So you bloody should be :shaking fist:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Sweeper keeper!!!! My head is falling off here! If I see false nine I'll also shit my pants in rage! You're just playing someone up front who doesn't normally play there. You've not reinvented the wheel you cunt!!! Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 I'm tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Forget the position, I just hate the fucking name. It's the FIFA generation, ten years ago there was players who would sit in the midfield and put tackles in and sit deep. They used to be called a midfielder. Now you have to be a DCM or and ACM. It's just nonsense. No one uses to call Scholes an ACM. The same as playing 4231, it's no different from 433, but now everything has names that are just crap from computer games. Got to disagree with you there mate. You've got players in different positions that do different jobs. Some are ball winners, some are deep playmakers or even "half backs" . The games changed since every player was a box to box midfielder because the focus is with players strengths. If that's good or bad for the game who knows, maybe Barkley would have been a better player if he trained to be a box to box player younger, but look at a modern number 10, you want them primarily to attack not uselessly defend. Maybe you're old school! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Erm, back to the man himself - Koeman has said he will play against Espanyol on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Erm, back to the man himself - Koeman has said he will play against Espanyol on Saturday. Sorry, who's this you're on about??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Sorry, who's this you're on about??? Some bloke called Idrissa Gueye. He's a DCM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Some bloke called Idrissa Gueye. He's a DCM. Cue SteveO "damn kids and their terminology, get off my lawn!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Some bloke called Idrissa Gueye. He's a DCM. I'm surprised you've heard of him with him being a DCM. Can you name the DCM for Chesterfield, Mansfield and Northampton? No googling!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Some bloke called Idrissa Gueye. He's a DCM. Oh yes. Of course. The new Advanced Centre Back Deep Defending Central Midfielder. ACBDDCM if you prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Half backs!!! I'm done!! Four four fucking two I get your point by the way Aiden, I agree about players who specialise being needed very much so. But all the bullshit names and terms that have come into the game, it's all bollocks. Just people along the line making the simple sound complicated so they look smart and it's caught on and been pushed further and further by computer games. Looking forward to seeing Gana in midfield. Hopefully he'll show us some positives. MikeO and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Come on, guys. I learned this stuff playing for my primary school team. 1: goalkeeper 2: right fullback 3: left fullback 4: right half 5: centre half 6: left half 7: right wing 8: inside right 9: centre forward 10: inside left 11: left wing I have no idea what all these acronyms, or numbers higher than 11, mean. Did a search for DCM and it provided a list of Democrat Committee Members - all number 11s. rubecula, Steve_E and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Come on, guys. I learned this stuff playing for my primary school team. 1: goalkeeper 2: right fullback 3: left fullback 4: right half 5: centre half 6: left half 7: right wing 8: inside right 9: centre forward 10: inside left 11: left wing I have no idea what all these acronyms, or numbers higher than 11, mean. Did a search for DCM and it provided a list of Democrat Committee Members - all number 11s. Very clever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Come on, guys. I learned this stuff playing for my primary school team. 1: goalkeeper 2: right fullback 3: left fullback 4: right half 5: centre half 6: left half 7: right wing 8: inside right 9: centre forward 10: inside left 11: left wing I have no idea what all these acronyms, or numbers higher than 11, mean. Did a search for DCM and it provided a list of Democrat Committee Members - all number 11s. Obviously a rocket scientist here. Makes something simple, look so so simple! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 I remember those days Steve. the big hobnail boots with the neiled on studs and the huge toecap (Ideal for kneecapping the opposition) and the dubbin that was put on the casey before the game.... but was useless after 5 minutes. Made the casey more like a medicine ball when it was wet. Wonder if anyone will try the old formations again? can't be many managers around who would remember how to play against 5 forward players. lol Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 I'm surprised you've heard of him with him being a DCM. Can you name the DCM for Chesterfield, Mansfield and Northampton? No googling!!! Nobby Shrubshaw, Douglas Cooper-Merryweather & Fernando Rio Caprio de la Potage jr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Keeper defender midfielder forward/striker A manager dictates the finer details of a players role in my eyes through system and tactics not what FIFA or Wiki say in my opinion but that's just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Nobby Shrubshaw, Douglas Cooper-Merryweather & Fernando Rio Caprio de la Potage jr? Knowledge is power!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 I'm surprised you've heard of him with him being a DCM. Can you name the DCM for Chesterfield, Mansfield and Northampton? No googling!!! I had to Google him and he's our player, so I'm out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Paul, you are my hero!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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