Palfy Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 His finishing is definitely improving he was at least 9 yards out for that one dunlopp9987, Bailey, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 He could attract done daft bids. I wouldn't dismiss selling him if he can pull in £90m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DavisJD Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, Hafnia said: He could attract done daft bids. I wouldn't dismiss selling him if he can pull in £90m I wouldn’t sell, if he’s keen to stay sign him up long term. Bring in other strikers to play along side him or compete with him definitely. He is showing that he could be a 20-30 goal a season player for the next 10 years, and hasn’t seemed to of hit his peak yet. Low injury record. Even if he keeps his current level, and doesn’t get ‘better’, he would still be an player to keep, because he has huge assets to his game that can be important in ‘different situations’ as the Don would say. Nothing but upside, hopefully will be part of the squad long term. markjazzbassist, Wiggytop, pete0 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markjazzbassist Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: He could attract done daft bids. I wouldn't dismiss selling him if he can pull in £90m as the old saying goes, a bird in hand is better than 2 in the bush. i'd rather keep DCL and watch him continue to grow, improve and mature as a player, he will only get better.  Matt, Newty82, pete0 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 He's had a poor second half to the season goals wise, along with the whole team. Yet again though, let's cash in on our leading goalscorer. I mean I wouldn't sell. Not for £150m. Why? Because despite an up and down season, he's still managed 20 goals this season. Could easily have been 30 if James had been more fit, injuries etc. The lad is going to be a sensation. Just play to his strengths and we won't be talking 20-30, we'll be looking 30-40. If he's given the service. London Blue, DavisJD, markjazzbassist and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 10 hours ago, Matt said: He's had a poor second half to the season goals wise, along with the whole team. Yet again though, let's cash in on our leading goalscorer. I mean I wouldn't sell. Not for £150m. Why? Because despite an up and down season, he's still managed 20 goals this season. Could easily have been 30 if James had been more fit, injuries etc. The lad is going to be a sensation. Just play to his strengths and we won't be talking 20-30, we'll be looking 30-40. If he's given the service. I'm not disputing DCLs quality.... I was one of the few touting him to become the player he is. My point is that he could attract far more money than he is worth. There is more hype to him than any other player we have. Every player has a price and DCL is one who could see a daft bid come in. Do I think he's a goalscorer? Not really no. I think he has engineered a method for scoring goals in certain situations. But I don't trust him to be as clinical in certain situations. He's a superb target man but I don't think the evolution of our team would play to his strengths. In an ideal world with no FFP you would keep him and get Usmanov to finance us to buy £300m worth of players. But that's not happening. Wow.... Get me writing this after spending post after post explaining why DCL would become a player capable of replacing Lukaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Hafnia said: I'm not disputing DCLs quality.... I was one of the few touting him to become the player he is. My point is that he could attract far more money than he is worth. There is more hype to him than any other player we have. Every player has a price and DCL is one who could see a daft bid come in. Do I think he's a goalscorer? Not really no. I think he has engineered a method for scoring goals in certain situations. But I don't trust him to be as clinical in certain situations. He's a superb target man but I don't think the evolution of our team would play to his strengths. In an ideal world with no FFP you would keep him and get Usmanov to finance us to buy £300m worth of players. But that's not happening. Wow.... Get me writing this after spending post after post explaining why DCL would become a player capable of replacing Lukaku Trust me, this is just as infuriating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Matt said: Trust me, this is just as infuriating Why? It's an opinion. You wouldn't sell for £150m? That's the fee for Haarland. The whole premise on transfer operations is buy low sell high ..... If you can sell a player for £30m more than they are worth and buy an equal player for £20m less than they are worth then it's a £50m player extra in your squad should the money he invested. Do I rate DCL? Yes, love the lad. Do I think that he could be overpriced? Yes.  Liverpool sold coutinho and built a title winning side with the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Why? It's an opinion. You wouldn't sell for £150m? That's the fee for Haarland. The whole premise on transfer operations is buy low sell high ..... If you can sell a player for £30m more than they are worth and buy an equal player for £20m less than they are worth then it's a £50m player extra in your squad should the money he invested. Do I rate DCL? Yes, love the lad. Do I think that he could be overpriced? Yes.  Liverpool sold coutinho and built a title winning side with the money. Steady on haf - liverpool already had most their players at the point they sold him. I don’t think we can keep selling our best assets and replacing them. Right now with Carlo/Moshiri we can attract the best players I can remember. So let’s get them and keep our key stars.  StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt Posted May 11, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 32 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Why? It's an opinion. You wouldn't sell for £150m? That's the fee for Haarland. The whole premise on transfer operations is buy low sell high ..... If you can sell a player for £30m more than they are worth and buy an equal player for £20m less than they are worth then it's a £50m player extra in your squad should the money he invested. Do I rate DCL? Yes, love the lad. Do I think that he could be overpriced? Yes.  Liverpool sold coutinho and built a title winning side with the money. It's infuriating reading about we need a player that will bring others into the game instead of someone who can finish, now that we have that player and sold our natural finisher it may well be Haaland money, but we wont get Haaland. I get the point of selling to beef up the team, but then I'd sell Richarlison to fund that. That said, I wouldn't sell either. markjazzbassist, DavisJD, StevO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 he's had a relatively poor second half of the season with regards to goals but you wait till the fans are back and firing him up. Let's not forget that the recent signings are in for a treat too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 haf no chance we are getting Haaland, if we get 150m we will have to overpay by at least 20m on the striker we buy. so who we gonna get?  StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 I can’t think why we would even consider selling the best aerial player in the PL if not Europe at present, we need to play to his strengths more, ie get to the byline and put crosses in that he can attack, that sort of play will blow the roof off Goodison and land on Bramley Moore. Matt, markjazzbassist, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: haf no chance we are getting Haaland, if we get 150m we will have to overpay by at least 20m on the striker we buy. so who we gonna get?  I don't think Haf's suggesting we'll get Haaland, he's just talking valuations (as I understood it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, MikeO said: I don't think Haf's suggesting we'll get Haaland, he's just talking valuations (as I understood it). i just don't know of a quality young striker out there that is both better than DCL, Availble, and willing to come to Everton. it's like wishing for a unicorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 In our league the only striker that is a level above him is Aguero and he's nearing retirement. If we look to sell and bring in a more senior player there's only Lukaku who I can think of, but he's not gonna leave champions League football to come back to us this summer. Any one else would be a risk ss they're unproven in the league or no better. Of players his age and under there's only Haaland and Mbappe that I know of that are notably better.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 34 minutes ago, pete0 said: In our league the only striker that is a level above him is Aguero and he's nearing retirement. Kane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 minute ago, c1982 said: Kane? Always liked a bit of consensual corporal punishment me. Oh wait I'm on the wrong forum. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, c1982 said: Kane? He's got more power in his shots from outside the box but other than that DCL is better in every department. Stronger, fitter, faster, dribbling, touch (Kane's is shocking), hold up play, aerial, reading the play/better movement.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevO Posted May 11, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, pete0 said: He's got more power in his shots from outside the box but other than that DCL is better in every department. Stronger, fitter, faster, dribbling, touch (Kane's is shocking), hold up play, aerial, reading the play/better movement.  Shit touch Kane. See them goals at Goodison Park the other week? I’d love us to have a striker as good as Harry Kane. The man is on another level. DavisJD, Matt, dunlopp9987 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, StevO said: Shit touch Kane. See them goals at Goodison Park the other week? I’d love us to have a striker as good as Harry Kane. The man is on another level. Kane is undoubtedly the elite striker of the premier league. If he goes to a proper big team he will score as many goals as he wants. Fitness is his only question mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 hours ago, pete0 said: He's got more power in his shots from outside the box but other than that DCL is better in every department. Stronger, fitter, faster, dribbling, touch (Kane's is shocking), hold up play, aerial, reading the play/better movement.  We're.... we're talking about the guy leading the league in goals and assists....yeah? Just wanna make sure we're all talking about the same Kane. To say that Kane and DCL are on the same level is preposterous. And this coming from someone who is a big fan of DCL and does not want to see him leave. Btay, DavisJD, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 44 minutes ago, StevO said: Shit touch Kane. See them goals at Goodison Park the other week? I’d love us to have a striker as good as Harry Kane. The man is on another level. What striker would have missed those two gifts?  You watch their game against Leeds? Lukaku got shit for a lot less. We've already got one better. As was our last striker.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, Btay said: Kane is undoubtedly the elite striker of the premier league. If he goes to a proper big team he will score as many goals as he wants. Fitness is his only question mark Take away pens and he's scored one more than DCL this season. Only thing he's got that DCL hasn't is Son next to him. Look at Kane for England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 26 minutes ago, pete0 said: What striker would have missed those two gifts?  You watch their game against Leeds? Lukaku got shit for a lot less. We've already got one better. As was our last striker.  He controlled and finished the first with his weaker foot, the second he finished first time on the volley. Forget why striker would miss, what striker scores them both?  DCL is a very talented striker, who’s not yet finished he’s best season so far in the premier league. But to say he’s better than Kane, you’re either on the wind up or just wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevO Posted May 11, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 32 minutes ago, pete0 said: Look at Kane for England. Please do.  Under Sam he played one scored none. Under Roy he played 16 and scored 5. Under Southgate he’s played 36 and scored 29. 34 goals in 53 caps.  Only Owen, Greaves, Lineker, Charlton and Rooney have scored more. None of them will be getting another cap any time soon. He’ll probably pass Owen before the end of the Euros, maybe pass Greaves before the end of 2021. He needs 20 goals to become England’s top goal scorer of all time. Five per year for the next four years?  Still only 27. Just three years older than Dom.  He’s also seventh on the premier league all time top scorers list. Only Aguero is ahead of him who is still playing. He’s 11 goals behind Henry. There is only Jamie Vardy in the top 20 that is still playing, other than Kane himself. dunlopp9987, MikeO, Hafnia and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, pete0 said: Take away pens and he's scored one more than DCL this season. Only thing he's got that DCL hasn't is Son next to him. Look at Kane for England. Don’t get me wrong I’m loving the debate, it’s a credit to Dom and his efforts that he’s gotten himself into this upper tier bracket. Agree as well, I would love to see us get a pacey right winger and get more quality around Dom StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 50 minutes ago, StevO said: Please do.  Under Sam he played one scored none. Under Roy he played 16 and scored 5. Under Southgate he’s played 36 and scored 29. 34 goals in 53 caps.  Only Owen, Greaves, Lineker, Charlton and Rooney have scored more. None of them will be getting another cap any time soon. He’ll probably pass Owen before the end of the Euros, maybe pass Greaves before the end of 2021. He needs 20 goals to become England’s top goal scorer of all time. Five per year for the next four years?  Still only 27. Just three years older than Dom.  He’s also seventh on the premier league all time top scorers list. Only Aguero is ahead of him who is still playing. He’s 11 goals behind Henry. There is only Jamie Vardy in the top 20 that is still playing, other than Kane himself. How many did he get in the tournament? Oh wait he was shite, probably England's worst performer. You think Kane is as good as any of those names mentioned? He's 27 and still at Spurs... Meanwhile Juve, Barca, PSG, Chelsea, Inter, Arsenal, Man U, Atletico Madrid have all shelled out for strikers. I'm really hoping a club one day is stupid enough to buy him. They'll be worse for it.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 3 hours ago, pete0 said: How many did he get in the tournament? Oh wait he was shite, probably England's worst performer. You think Kane is as good as any of those names mentioned? He's 27 and still at Spurs... Meanwhile Juve, Barca, PSG, Chelsea, Inter, Arsenal, Man U, Atletico Madrid have all shelled out for strikers. I'm really hoping a club one day is stupid enough to buy him. They'll be worse for it.  I'm really confused/genuinely fascinated by your apparent disdain for him as a player. Is this one of those situations where someone chooses to dislike the popular thing just to be a contrarian? Believe me, I've been there. I was that guy when Avatar came out. Harry Kane is, undoubtedly, one of the best strikers in the PL era. He is a clinical finisher, has recently shown that he is adaptable and can also turn provider, and has consistently been scoring goals (usually over 20+ a season in the PL) since the 2014/15 season. Am I missing something?? Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 3 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: I'm really confused/genuinely fascinated by your apparent disdain for him as a player. Is this one of those situations where someone chooses to dislike the popular thing just to be a contrarian? Believe me, I've been there. I was that guy when Avatar came out. Harry Kane is, undoubtedly, one of the best strikers in the PL era. He is a clinical finisher, has recently shown that he is adaptable and can also turn provider, and has consistently been scoring goals (usually over 20+ a season in the PL) since the 2014/15 season. Am I missing something?? It's against the popular opinion. Pete would argue that water is dry if he didn't rate it. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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