Paddock Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Side track... Anyone remember seeing koeman at Goodison in 95 in the uefa fixture? I was mesmerised by his right peg, he looked 15 stone and didn't move but pinged 50 yard balls all over the place. He had thighs bigger than my training partner in the gym and his are huge. Dwarf Robero Carlos by a mile. They were huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Koeman's agent has said that? Get in, he's the one I want! he and pelligrini for me. Koeman has proven he knows his transfers, deals with divas, and tactically plays a nice game with pressing and solid defense. i'd be very very happy with him signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Bergkamp is apparently staying with Ajax Well in for pissing on the parade Ten :shaking fist: Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) Mirallas do you watch much Dutch football? You make him sound like a tactical idiot yet suggest a manager that practically nobody has ever heard of hasn't won anything of any worth and has managed in a league that's comparable to the Championship at best What's nationality is Preud'homme... ah let me guess He is a tactical idiot compared to most high profile managers. Second statement: I didn't suggest Preud'Homme, as well as... are you starting to believe Haf's nonsense about me concerning Belgians? The only correlation between me and Belgians is the fact that I know a whole many of them for obvious reasons, so my point of view will concern a whole lot more knowledge on Belgian stuff. It doesn't make me prejudiced or chauvenistic. I think you guys often get confused about that. If you, as English guys, would root for Club Brugge and came to my home team's forums to get involved in the discussion, obviously your input will be tinted by your English context and knowledge of football players and managers. And I'd understand that too. You know what the best thing is? I'll put it in bold: On my home team's forums I sometimes get banter for mentioning too many EPL players. That's a shocker right there, isn't it? Yet it's the cold hard truth. I know more about English football than most Belgians do and I know more about Belgian football than most Englishmen do. So I suggest you guys get over it and just leave me to my Mirallas-esque comments without having to mention that chauvinist bullshit because it's simply wrong. Edited May 12, 2016 by Mirallas EFC-Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I'd be happy with both they are my first and second choice, Pellegrini if we can't get either but only if we can't. He should be the fallback option. Fucking hell, imagine having Pellegrini as our 3rd choice. Not saying he is for one minute but that's how far a new investor almost owner has taken the expectations of the club. How anyone can ant Kenwright and Co here with that staring them in the face is a mystery. Lost me at the end . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 You made the point before me (I type slow ). Copying me again Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Lost me at the end . They need to sell up and move on and let go Mike, enough is enough now, they done a good job for a long time but they are holding us back. Imagine if they sold out to another Moshiri or he bought the lot. Just 49.9% bought and we're looking at Mourino, Pellegrini , De Boer etc as manager. If Moshiri hadn't bought those shares Martinez would get another season. It's time for a complete change mate, Kewright, suntan bob , Woods and all Martinez coaching staff need to go let Moshiri take the reigns from here until the next chapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 They need to sell up and move on and let go Mike, enough is enough now, they done a good job for a long time but they are holding us back. Imagine if they sold out to another Moshiri or he bought the lot. Just 49.9% bought and we're looking at Mourino, Pellegrini , De Boer etc as manager. If Moshiri hadn't bought those shares Martinez would get another season. It's time for a complete change mate, Kewright, suntan bob , Woods and all Martinez coaching staff need to go let Moshiri take the reigns from here until the next chapter. It was the smelling I didn't understand; the "w" missing off the start of "ant" (which I presume is what you meant) threw me. Bit slow tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Well in for pissing on the parade Ten :shaking fist: Sorry, nor sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I want someone with a track record of turning promising youth players into genuine stars. I'd have loved Klopp or Van Gaal for that reason alone, we seem to have a glut of talent at U21 level and younger, I want someone in who will improve them and get them into the first team. It annoys me to see the likes of Forshaw playing really well for Boro and about to play in the Prem - genuinely good coaches can bring players like that on. Ajax, Barcelona - that's the model Everton should be following. That doesn't necessarily mean I want De Boer btw, I'm not sure how good his record with youth development is, seems the last crop of Ajax to go in and make a name for themselves started leaving early in his time there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Just messing around here, but it's come up on another forum, a kind of 'make the best of a bad scenario' situation: if you had to choose from one of these managers, which would you choose: Big Sam Moyes Brendan Rodgers Duncan Ferguson Not that I want any of them, but Big Sam is easily the best choice. He is seriously underrated. Usually has both his hands tied behind his back and yet comes up with results. Saving Sunderland was a miracle. He's also much smarter than people give credit for. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 It was the smelling I didn't understand; the "w" missing off the start of "ant" (which I presume is what you meant) threw me. Bit slow tonight. Ironic. Haha!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Koeman over any other for me. I'd even have him over Jose (however unrealistic) on the basis that Koeman seems to give more youngsters a chance, an area we are strong and should not overlook. I'd fear Jose wouldn't bring through some of the top potential we have on the brink of breaking through. Pellegrini is a big no from me. Can see him making the same defensive mistakes that we've been making under Martinez. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Koeman over any other for me. I'd even have him over Jose (however unrealistic) on the basis that Koeman seems to give more youngsters a chance, an area we are strong and should not overlook. I'd fear Jose wouldn't bring through some of the top potential we have on the brink of breaking through. Pellegrini is a big no from me. Can see him making the same defensive mistakes that we've been making under Martinez. What can Koeman do for everton which he can't do with Southampton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 What can Koeman do for everton which he can't do with Southampton? have money to buy transfers. he has to sell to buy at Soton and they can't keep their stars. we can keep our stars here now and can splash the cash with moshiri. dlblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 What can Koeman do for everton which he can't do with Southampton? Spend money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 have money to buy transfers. he has to sell to buy at Soton and they can't keep their stars. we can keep our stars here now and can splash the cash with moshiri. Damn it beat me to it. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Ironic. Haha!!! Intentional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 It's a pure myth Mourinho doesn't give youngsters chances. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Intentional. Bloody knew it would be!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Bloody knew it would be!!! "M" and "P" not even close to each other . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 To be fair Southampton aren't short of £££. EFC have a bigger fan base and the North West is a more competitive footballing area... always feel Southampton being 'out the way' can make it less attractive. I don't necessarily think he's a realistic target but there's been talk of him stalling on a new deal for a long time now - we'll see. Only draw back on him would be if he brought Sammy Lee. Overall I just want a manager who will motivate our players, get them fit and play pressing and tactically flexible football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) He is a tactical idiot compared to most high profile managers. Second statement: I didn't suggest Preud'Homme, as well as... are you starting to believe Haf's nonsense about me concerning Belgians? The only correlation between me and Belgians is the fact that I know a whole many of them for obvious reasons, so my point of view will concern a whole lot more knowledge on Belgian stuff. It doesn't make me prejudiced or chauvenistic. I think you guys often get confused about that. If you, as English guys, would root for Club Brugge and came to my home team's forums to get involved in the discussion, obviously your input will be tinted by your English context and knowledge of football players and managers. And I'd understand that too. You know what the best thing is? I'll put it in bold: On my home team's forums I sometimes get banter for mentioning too many EPL players. That's a shocker right there, isn't it? Yet it's the cold hard truth. I know more about English football than most Belgians do and I know more about Belgian football than most Englishmen do. So I suggest you guys get over it and just leave me to my Mirallas-esque comments without having to mention that chauvinist bullshit because it's simply wrong. I don't let Haf or anyone sway my opinions I form them myself but I wouldn't say he's far wrong and I'll be honest I can't be arsed replying to all that you've written as it's war and peace but your denouncing a man that's highly regarded by experts as a very good up and coming manager as a tactical numbty yet suggest absolute unknowns who've done nothing in footballing terms Your knowledge on Belgium and English football or what you post on other forums means very little to me I'm simply not interested it makes no odds to what you post on here Edited May 12, 2016 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 It's a pure myth Mourinho doesn't give youngsters chances. He hasn't during his 2 spells at Chelsea. That's what I'm judging him on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 To be fair Southampton aren't short of £££. EFC have a bigger fan base and the North West is a more competitive footballing area... always feel Southampton being 'out the way' can make it less attractive. I don't necessarily think he's a realistic target but there's been talk of him stalling on a new deal for a long time now - we'll see. Only draw back on him would be if he brought Sammy Lee. Overall I just want a manager who will motivate our players, get them fit and play pressing and tactically flexible football. lallana, lambert, lovern, shaw, clyne, schneiderlin, alderwiereld (couldn't sign him). this season they were 52m in transfer sales, 55m players bought. last season 123m out the door, 88m in the door, that's a sell to buy club with no transfer kitty. not sure why you think they have money. hell his first season he had a 30m profit and he couldn't even spend it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 have money to buy transfers. he has to sell to buy at Soton and they can't keep their stars. we can keep our stars here now and can splash the cash with moshiri. I think that they are one of the most financially sound and ran clubs in the league Mark I may be wrong but I'm sure they have plenty of money and backing there just Arsenal esq with spending it He's unhappy with selling top players and already given them the ultimatum on it apparently and only has a year left on his contract, he could easily walk if he was indeed interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) I think that they are one of the most financially sound and ran clubs in the league Mark I may be wrong but I'm sure they have plenty of money and backing there just Arsenal esq with spending it He's unhappy with selling top players and already given them the ultimatum on it apparently and only has a year left on his contract, he could easily walk if he was indeed interested please see above post. if they were financially sound they wouldn't take the vibrac loan every year to buy players. the same loan we took under bill K and others called a corporate payday loan with insane interest rate. same amount of debt as everton yet their commerical and kit deals are way smaller, staidum is 6k smaller, on and on. not saying they're badly ran, just that they aren't arsenal with cash reserves and no debt. Edited May 12, 2016 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 lallana, lambert, lovern, shaw, clyne, schneiderlin, alderwiereld (couldn't sign him). this season they were 52m in transfer sales, 55m players bought. last season 123m out the door, 88m in the door, that's a sell to buy club with no transfer kitty. not sure why you think they have money. hell his first season he had a 30m profit and he couldn't even spend it! Correct they've sold - not disputing that. I said they're not short of money... FACT. They have very rich owners although I don't know the ins and outs since the billionaire owner died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Correct they've sold - not disputing that. I said they're not short of money... FACT. They have very rich owners although I don't know the ins and outs since the billionaire owner died. The new owner is reluctant to invest, just wants to keep them in the prem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Spend money Spending money and spending money well are two different things. Id rather have someone with a better stature and can attract bigger players than Koeman. I'd rather splash a chunk of that transfer fee we're rumoured to have on someone substantial and make a real statement of intent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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