pete0 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 cant defend Rom much today, should've had a hat full. But to take credit away from De Gea is just stupid and childish I'm not. De Gea is the best keeper in the world, said it from his first season in the Prem. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) Unfortunately, our 3 young potential stars have shown themselves, in the last 6-7 matches, to be just that -- potential. Lukaku had 4-5 good chances. Barkley is in love with dribbling. Yes, occasionally it leads to something, but only occasionally. Stones is an elegant-looking player, but so fundamentally flawed, especially in losing concentration, regularly. Other players have flaws, too. I assume Martinez will be gone soon. No idea which of our stars, plus Mirallas, maybe others, will be sold in summer. But I expect a major, major overhaul, and welcome it. Edited April 23, 2016 by Elston Gunnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Unfortunately, our 3 young potential stars have shown themselves, in the last 6-7 matches, to be just that -- potential. Lukaku had 4-5 good chances. Barkley is in love with dribbling. Yes, occasionally it leads to something, but only occasionally. Stones is an elegant-looking player, but so fundamentally flawed, especially in losing concentration, regularly. Other players have flaws, too. I assume Martinez will be gone soon. No idea which of our stars, plus Mirallas, maybe others, will be sold in summer. But expect a major, major overhaul, and welcome it. Agree with this completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 This for me. Feel for them. By the way...Stones MoM by a mile. Was brilliant today. Have you forgotten he lost Fellaini completely for their first?? Sorry, he was VERY shaky first half, can't be MoM on that alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee_in_LA Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Absofuckinglutely gutted right now... Roberto out let's see what next season has in store for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 At least we showed some fight that half. I thought Stones and Jags were good to be honest. Gibson- fucked 2nd half and not in the game yet still on the pitch. Cleverley- never rated him and again should have gone off instead of Lennon. Although we made a second half of it our fuck wit of a manager still can't make the right calls. oh Lukaku- worst game I've seen in front of goal. lots of dead wood to be cleared hopefully starting with Roberto tonight, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Wow just wow. At least we showed a little fight the second half but you just knew United would nip it at the end, it's become the Everton way. Lukaku shit pen and other misses Stones gave away the first goal Jags gave away the second goal. Fire Martinez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 For the last half hour of that game...we gave it everything. Stones played more advanced, everyone suddenly got up for it. But where has that desire, passion, effort been for the first hour and previous games? We have it in us. We can play the game. We gave it a lot in the end, but too late. Gutted. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 The replay from above on final goal shows once again Stones failed to close down space. He realized too late what was happening. Stones is not right now a good defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Stones had a better game but thought Robles was MoM. It would have been over before half-time but for him. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 I have this sickening feeling our 'spirited display' will give the board the excuse to back Martinez. The refusal to bring on Mirallas when we had them by the throat does it for me. If we went for the kill then, had him and Geri tearing at them from each flank, we win. Instead, he brings him on in the 93rd minute AFTER they score. What the actual fuck?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 I have this sickening feeling our 'spirited display' will give the board the excuse to back Martinez. The refusal to bring on Mirallas when we had them by the throat does it for me. If we went for the kill then, had him and Geri tearing at them from each flank, we win. Instead, he brings him on in the 93rd minute AFTER they score. What the actual fuck?? Yes, I would love to know what his thought processes were when he made that decision with only 30 seconds left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 I have this sickening feeling our 'spirited display' will give the board the excuse to back Martinez. The refusal to bring on Mirallas when we had them by the throat does it for me. If we went for the kill then, had him and Geri tearing at them from each flank, we win. Instead, he brings him on in the 93rd minute AFTER they score. What the actual fuck?? Everybody is missing the point that he was never planning to bring Mirallas on at all; Gibson picked up the knock on the tackle on Rashford and that's what prompted the change. Makes it even worse. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Possibly to waste some time and get Kev on ready for Extra Time? I'm pretty sure Kev would have been warmed up and ready to come on when United scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Did anyone bother watching the post match interview? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Martinez really made a nonce of himself by waiting to bring on Mirallas. His subs never cease to amaze me. I would love to know what's going on in his head because he has to be the worst manager when it comes to sensible subs. Elston Gunnn and Sideliner 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Everybody is missing the point that he was never planning to bring Mirallas on at all; Gibson picked up the knock on the tackle on Rashford and that's what prompted the change. Makes it even worse. Not everyone, but the fact remains that he shouldve come on once we were 1-1 up and pressed on from the momentum we'd built but hey! that would require some kind of understanding and interpretation of game development..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 agree, the one thing we count on him for and he let us all down. Still... Not recognising he worked harder than he has been, held the ball up and laid it off for the equaliser? Mind you, if Smalling hadn't put it in he would've missed Hold up play??? Are you fucking serious??? He was absolutely fucking shocking. Shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Not everyone, but the fact remains that he shouldve come on once we were 1-1 up and pressed on from the momentum we'd built but hey! that would require some kind of understanding and interpretation of game development..... Don't know where the disagreement is. He should've been on at 70 minutes along with Geri in my mind. The fact that Martinez only brought him on to replace Gibbo for the last minute because Gibbo was injured and not because he's clearly not fit enough to play a full 90 minutes is baffling. Sideliner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Geri for me added the positive / direct play we needed. I can't believe he doesn't get more game time. Sideliner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Mirallas has 2 more years on his contract. If Martinez goes, maybe new manager will be able to bring the best out of Mirallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Hold up play??? Are you fucking serious??? He was absolutely fucking shocking. Shocking. I'm not talking about the whole game But you completely ignored his contribution to the goal. Because, yeah, youre balanced... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Well, that was hard to take. My 6-year-old, a big United fan, stopped dancing round the room when Martial scored, to tell me my team had tried hard. And they did. But ever the bridesmaid, eh. There was a big, big chance to win something this year and now it's gone. It feels very much like the end of an era, and I'm not even sure what kind of era it was. Sort of post-Moyes something or other. Team needs rebuilding, for sure. So much dead wood. Sad all round, really. Think I'll go on a long cycle ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Hold up play??? Are you fucking serious??? He was absolutely fucking shocking. Shocking. I'm not talking about the whole game But you completely ignored his contribution to the goal. Because, yeah, youre balanced... And even if you were, you wouldn't be wrong. His hold-up play was fine - it was everything else that was shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Sorry Haf, shouldn't be getting into the balanced thing at a time like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 I'm not. De Gea is the best keeper in the world, said it from his first season in the Prem. It doesn't take the best keeper in the world to save a penalty 6ft from his standing foot. It's called standard. He's a left footed player, who opened his body that much on the fast run up that he telegraphed it.... fucking unbelievable. Please be quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 And even if you were, you wouldn't be wrong. His hold-up play was fine - it was everything else that was shocking. It was ok. Nothing to write home about though. At least he put in a shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 I'm not talking about the whole game But you completely ignored his contribution to the goal. Because, yeah, youre balanced... Ah that's OK let's talk about the goal he scored and ignore the numerous sitters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/663556/Everton-boss-Roberto-Martinez-reveals-three-games-from-sack-ahead-Man-United-News-Gossip Does that mean he resigns if we lose to Bournemouth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Ah that's OK let's talk about the goal he scored and ignore the numerous sitters...you mean be balanced?! Wasn't sure you could do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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