Lowensda Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 I get it. I just don't see what can be done. No matter how many marches or petitions that get signed, BK will still be at the helm with his merry men and any force will lead to them taking an even more defensive approach. Just don't think it'll change. They'll still be on board if/when we ever get relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 I get it. I just don't see what can be done. No matter how many marches or petitions that get signed, BK will still be at the helm with his merry men and any force will lead to them taking an even more defensive approach. Just don't think it'll change. They'll still be on board if/when we ever get relegated. we need someone to be a strong whistle blower - the biggest indications for me were Trevor Birch and Whyness getting out asap. Birch was resposnible for getting abromovich into Chelsea - when he did that they wiped their debts and they offered him a different role and he rejected it which I admire - they went and got "kenyon". As for Wyness I have seen him on a few occassions but was sober enough not to be tempted to enquire further.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Wyness still has shares in the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 The one thing I must add is that think back to when big dunc was sold - it pretty much much got Peter Johnson out from the club. He sold Ferguson to balance the books. Behind the managers back or whatever - he sold dunc for financial reasons. Blue Bill has been doing this in a different manner for the past 10-15 years and been getting credit for it... Amazing isn't it. Carefully structured transfer dealings - golden handshakes, NDA's etc etc. Part and parcel of the way we are run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Wyness still has shares in the club. probably part of his "keep it shut" payment. Didn't Phillip Green go chasing him across to Majorca to arrange his resignation package..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Although people aren't excited about the coming season.....there is a lot of activity on this site. Whether people are optimistic or pessimistic, they are still having their say on every subject. I can't help it, my phone battery gets raped every day because of this forum. I am just bouncing inside in anticipation of Saturday.....life is just bit the sake without football. Or rather...life is not the same without Everton COYBs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Im still super excited about the coming season. Pretty optimistic too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Fucking meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Fucking meh. Take it to "despondency" :shaking fist:. (Or start a "meh" thread) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 I just don't know how I feel...hate not watching everton but not sure I hate it as much as watching last season Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Positivity comes from positive actions. There has been very few so far. Deulofeu is a massive deal and I wouldn't have blinked an eyelid if we'd splashed £15m on him this summer, however the small fee has taken the shine off that deal tbh. I also don't think it has rectified the holes that need filling in the first team. We're about £25m short of positivity atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Positivity comes from positive actions. There has been very few so far. Deulofeu is a massive deal and I wouldn't have blinked an eyelid if we'd splashed £15m on him this summer, however the small fee has taken the shine off that deal tbh. I also don't think it has rectified the holes that need filling in the first team. We're about £25m short of positivity atm. totally agree You'd be happier if we had the same player line-up but were £11m poorer? Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) You'd be happier if we had the same player line-up but were £11m poorer? Makes sense. The small fee has taken the shine off the deal, I'm sure many would agree. If the club had spent £15m on the lad there would be less questions being asked financially. Making a marquee signing paying a big transfer fee gives a feeling of intent. I don't expect you to understand that though. Edited August 4, 2015 by MC11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 your post made no sense at all. MC stated he wouldnt have batted an eyelid about paying £15 mill for Gerry in this financial climate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 your post made no sense at all. MC stated he wouldnt have batted an eyelid about paying £15 mill for Gerry in this financial climate. I thought it was perfectly clear. He said he'd have been happier if we'd spent £15m on a guy we got for £4m (because it would've shown intent presumably). Let's spunk an extra £11m because it makes us look good and makes the fans feel better; we have so much money to waste, Insane. Can see the negotiations, "No please let us give you more because it'll make us look good to the fans!" I don't expect MC to understand that though and as he never reads my posts I'm not entirely sure how he responded to it. Psychic powers maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) I thought it was perfectly clear. He said he'd have been happier if we'd spent £15m on a guy we got for £4m (because it would've shown intent presumably). Let's spunk an extra £11m because it makes us look good and makes the fans feel better; we have so much money to waste, Insane. Can see the negotiations, "No please let us give you more because it'll make us look good to the fans!" I don't expect MC to understand that though and as he never reads my posts I'm not entirely sure how he responded to it. Psychic powers maybe. I only respond to them when you're being a thundercunt. Why on earth would I be happier if we were less off financially? The purpose of my original post was to point out that the Deulofeu deal, whilst being a good one, is by no means a show of "feel good" intent by the club....it was a low transfer fee. If he'd had been signed for more fans wouldn't be moaning - that's just pretty much fact. The lack of financial input again breaths negativity rather than positivity. Edited August 4, 2015 by MC11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 For a few weeks you were fine. Not being nasty for no reason at all. Now we're back to thundercunting again aren't we? If we actually applied the rules that we have here you would have long been booted for abuse. Maybe we should enforce the rules properly or you learn to just be part of the conversation without being insulting or abusive with anyone that has a different opinion to you? Everyone else manages just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 I only respond to them when you're being a thundercunt. That's a relief. The rest of your post (if I had an opinion) I'd call complete nonsense. Let's just go back to ignoring each other eh, it's for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 If he wasn't so condescending I'd still be wearing a brownie sticker like Paddock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 If he wasn't so condescending I'd still be wearing a brownie sticker like Paddock Infantile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Infantile. Banter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Condescending, sarcasm, piss taking, all fine. Being abusive or just calling names because someone disagrees with you isn't ok. There are forums on the internet where you can give people shit, some people enjoy it. This isn't that place. patto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 This is also a forum where you shouldn't use the word banter. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Bantz innit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I can actually see Mcs point. Sometimes people look at how much we have spent as a sign of intent and not the actual worth of the player. There have been a myriad of posts that stats with....we have only spent blah blah blah. I think MC is just pointing out that if we had spent 15m on him people would be looking at it a bit differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I can actually see Mcs point. Sometimes people look at how much we have spent as a sign of intent and not the actual worth of the player. There have been a myriad of posts that stats with....we have only spent blah blah blah. I think MC is just pointing out that if we had spent 15m on him people would be looking at it a bit differently. Yeah mc is spot on. The Lukaku signing showed some intent and gusto. This summer shows how skint we are and how the TV money is disappearing with the arteta money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yeah mc is spot on. The Lukaku signing showed some intent and gusto. This summer shows how skint we are and how the TV money is disappearing with the arteta money. Just be patient! Lukaku's original loan was sealed minutes before the deadline closed, and we were all over the moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Chill guy's that marquee signing is just around the corner. Jonny Evans will sign and we can all breath a huge sigh of relief. I need banning as Thunderc&&&ing is probably a nicer phrase than Jonny Evans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I think one of the main themes is why the fuck does all business get done when a good few games have been played??? It doesn't make sense. Close the window earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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