Hafnia Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 He's the architpical knob head you work with who makes out they live and breathe the job, takes notes at every meeting, churns out all the buzz words, in half an hour before shift, last to leave, butty at desk and never has a hang over. All of a sudden you have a good stint and you see them giving you funny looks and point scoring shit starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-keen-tom-cleverley-7169742? Duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Would like him here. Technically sound player and could provide great link up between midfield and our forward line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 One of my mates has just been playing golf with someone ' on Evertons staff' and has been told Cleverly is signing next week for £8M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 One of my mates has just been playing golf with someone ' on Evertons staff' and has been told Cleverly is signing next week for £8M 8m is very steep, it better be performance based if true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 That is steep, especially with his contract situation. I can only imagine it's the 'English' premium. Herrera joining United, I can see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 One of my mates has just been playing golf with someone ' on Evertons staff' and has been told Cleverly is signing next week for £8M Wouldn't mind as much if it was a lower fee seeing as he's in the last year of his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Would anyone in Evertons staff (thats in the know how of any transfer dealings) let something like that slip out during a game of golf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBlue Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 If it's as much as 8M then I would hope that the full 8M is payable on us winning the Champions League or him earning player of the PFA award for player of the season. 4M-5M would have been about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee_in_LA Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 hes a young England international £8 million isn't over the top. Not to mention the Manchester United premium attached to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Not to mention the Manchester United premium attached to it. Gibson - £500,000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 another shit player to be linked with us....seriously who wants this guy, mccarthy is twice the player we need a top striker before anything else because the strikers we have are meant for a team like west brom or sunderland come on roberto sort it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 I want him but not at that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Gibson - £500,000? That was up front, I think it was closer to £2m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 That was up front, I think it was closer to £2m. But still. Find a player of that ability, age and experience for £2m!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 I think the deal will be up to £8m. £8m is nothing for a 24 year old midfielder, he has yet to relaise his potential, he will only do that away from Man United IMO. Their fans are a disgrace when it comes to young lads coming through:- it starts like this.... 1. "You heard about this young lad playing for reserves!!! (Cleverley, Wellbeck, Ravel, Gibson, Januazaj) - telling ya, he's the next Scholes or Beckham" 2. "He played today, looked amazing, telling ya now we need to play him every week" 3. Above player gets £50k a week deal - has a few poor games 4. "get rid, he's useless" - fans boo, slate the player, abuse on twitter etc etc. Player plays well and still gets stick, they want Barkley. 5. Player leaves and joins new club and feels relaxed to play football at the level they know they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 8m is nothing when they have 2-3 years on their contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 it's also nothing when it's not for tom fuckin cleverley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) I think the deal will be up to £8m. £8m is nothing for a 24 year old midfielder, he has yet to relaise his potential, he will only do that away from Man United IMO. Their fans are a disgrace when it comes to young lads coming through:- it starts like this.... 1. "You heard about this young lad playing for reserves!!! (Cleverley, Wellbeck, Ravel, Gibson, Januazaj) - telling ya, he's the next Scholes or Beckham" 2. "He played today, looked amazing, telling ya now we need to play him every week" 3. Above player gets £50k a week deal - has a few poor games 4. "get rid, he's useless" - fans boo, slate the player, abuse on twitter etc etc. Player plays well and still gets stick, they want Barkley. 5. Player leaves and joins new club and feels relaxed to play football at the level they know they can. Not that I disagree with any of it but I guess you know why its made me laugh To be fair, every team has those fans. Edited June 26, 2014 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Not that I disagree with any of it but I guess you know why its made me laugh To be fair, every team has those fans. Potential being "mentally" - not technically. Technically I think the lad is very good, he just needs the confidence to believe in his ability. As repeated elsewhere regarding Rom his technical development scope is limited - he is what he is going to be. Mentally the lad needs a bit of TLC. He will be a very good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Potential being "mentally" - not technically. Technically I think the lad is very good, he just needs the confidence to believe in his ability. As repeated elsewhere regarding Rom his technical development scope is limited - he is what he is going to be. Mentally the lad needs a bit of TLC. He will be a very good player. Completely agree, just think its funny that at 21 Lukaku is "written off" (cant think of a better phrase) but at 24 Cleverly will be a good player. There are some things you cant teach mentally too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Completely agree, just think its funny that at 21 Lukaku is "written off" (cant think of a better phrase) but at 24 Cleverly will be a good player. There are some things you cant teach mentally too Not written off, but for me is not in the bracket he has been placed. He is not a top end striker and never will be because of his technical limitations - mainly control and touch. You seen signs that defenders sussed him out after his initial 8 goals in 10 games. They stopped allowing him space, you seen moments when they did give him that freedom like Arsenal and he punished them. He needs defenders to "not mark" him tightly. Sorry but thats just not going to happen, Scott Dann did a number on him as did Lovren in the return fixtures. He can be a tremendous impact sub or striker that plays off a second man. He stated that he wants Fellaini up front with him for Belgium so he can get space... as he doesn't get any when he's marked. It says alot about the player. He should be the point man for the attacking midfielders Belguim have to hold it up to allow them to join in attack and play one two's with their talented AM's, its not happening because he can't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Not written off, but for me is not in the bracket he has been placed. He is not a top end striker and never will be because of his technical limitations - mainly control and touch. You seen signs that defenders sussed him out after his initial 8 goals in 10 games. They stopped allowing him space, you seen moments when they did give him that freedom like Arsenal and he punished them. He needs defenders to "not mark" him tightly. Sorry but thats just not going to happen, Scott Dann did a number on him as did Lovren in the return fixtures. He can be a tremendous impact sub or striker that plays off a second man. He stated that he wants Fellaini up front with him for Belgium so he can get space... as he doesn't get any when he's marked. It says alot about the player. He should be the point man for the attacking midfielders Belguim have to hold it up to allow them to join in attack and play one two's with their talented AM's, its not happening because he can't do it. ok mate, lets not go into it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 ok mate, lets not go into it again yep, repeat and rinse.... be interesting to see if he plays later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Who was to know that? My argument was that United players have a premium price, when in fact they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee_in_LA Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Who was to know that? My argument was that United players have a premium price, when in fact they don't. I had forgotten how cheaply we got Gibson . Cheers for correcting me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 sounds bad but I almost don't want Gibson to get fit. I really don't think he could fit in the team now. Sadly we have stepped up a level since him. Ok if we didn't get Barry he may be a stand in, but really we need a more mobile player to replace Barry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBlue Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 With the United players that we got on the cheap I think that was more of a reflection of United's appreciation in their desire to play elsewhere. They did it for a number of players. I can't believe they are paying a reported 34M for Luke Shaw, in that case I guess the price being quoted for Cleverly isn't too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 30m bid accepted for Shaw from United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 sounds bad but I almost don't want Gibson to get fit. I really don't think he could fit in the team now. Sadly we have stepped up a level since him. Ok if we didn't get Barry he may be a stand in, but really we need a more mobile player to replace Barry. I think Gibson would fit into Barry's role perfectly... He's more mobile all be it not by much but he definitely doesn't shy from a tackle and has good range of passing. Fitness is the obvious issue hence I wouldn't rely on him as first choice. And as much as I agree with cleverly having the potential to become a GOOD player, I think we need to replicate the formula of young (McCarthy) and experienced (Barry). Perhaps a Veloso/Defour for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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