MC11 Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Actually by "we" I meant the vast majority of Evertonians but I very much doubt that the club wants to get rid of its only creative player Would be ridiculous to let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Would be ridiculous to let him go. Get a grip MC, players like Alan Ball who were world class were sold by the club - they loved the shirt and respected the club and teammates. You are acting like some 14 year old girl worried about take that splitting up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 getting rid of Alan ball and bobby Collins were two of the worst decisions we ever made, plus getting rid of big joe royle as manager. He resigned though didn't he, because Johnson wouldn't let him sign Flo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Get a grip MC, players like Alan Ball who were world class were sold by the club - they loved the shirt and respected the club and teammates.You are acting like some 14 year old girl worried about take that splitting up. Give it a rest now you're boring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Give it a rest now you're boring! Translated = I have no idea what you are talking about. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Get a grip MC, players like Alan Ball who were world class were sold by the club - they loved the shirt and respected the club and teammates. You are acting like some 14 year old girl worried about take that splitting up. And they were also ridiculous decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Matt and Peter H 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Ha ha that did make me smile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Ha ha that did make me smile! Time heals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) TSF doesn't think too highly of Mirallas. http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/articles/the-secret-footballer/23667/kevin-mirallas-pays-the-penalty-for-selfish-spot-kick-failure/#slide-1 And after all that, one player breaks rank and decides that he should be the hero. In a couple of the teams that I’ve played in, Mirallas would have been pinned to the changing-room wall at full time while the rest of the squad gave him a painful demonstration of what it means to belong to a team. Obviously, minus Baines who, as we know, doesn’t like confrontation.It will piss off the Everton players far more if the club now breaks its wage structure – whatever that is – to keep Mirallas at Goodison Park. As a player, he will know that. But for some footballers, the lure of cash on the horizon in what is a finite career far outweighs the togetherness and selflessness that can so help a squad in pursuit of success. Edited January 26, 2015 by Makis Romey 1878 and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 I did hear yesterday, and I'm not normally one to post what I hear off a mate ect ect, but the whole penalty debacle - apparently Kev had a shirt underneath with a tribute to the young Belgian boy Junior Malanda and that's why he took the penalty. Again wrong it may be as their is an order, but I did not ever believe it was him putting himself in the shop window regardless the truth to this or not. MC11 and MikeO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 I did hear yesterday, and I'm not normally one to post what I hear off a mate ect ect, but the whole penalty debacle - apparently Kev had a shirt underneath with a tribute to the young Belgian boy Junior Malanda and that's why he took the penalty. Again wrong it may be as their is an order, but I did not ever believe it was him putting himself in the shop window regardless the truth to this or not. That was on a site last week - forgot which one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 That was on a site last week - forgot which one. It doesn't make it any better though, IMO. As sad as the death of his friend is he shouldn't have put that ahead of the team and getting an important three points. He put even more pressure on himself to score that penalty if that's the reason too. By all means, try everything to score from open play, even be a greedy bastard and shoot on sight at every opportunity, but do not blow an opportunity of almost a guaranteed goal like that for personal reasons. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 It doesn't make it any better though, IMO. As sad as the death of his friend is he shouldn't have put that ahead of the team and getting an important three points. He put even more pressure on himself to score that penalty if that's the reason too. By all means, try everything to score from open play, even be a greedy bastard and shoot on sight at every opportunity, but do not blow an opportunity of almost a guaranteed goal like that for personal reasons. Couldn't agree more. Relly tragic to lose a friend, especially one so young but He should have been professional about it. He gets paid enough to justify us expecting that of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 It doesn't make it any better though, IMO. As sad as the death of his friend is he shouldn't have put that ahead of the team and getting an important three points. He put even more pressure on himself to score that penalty if that's the reason too. By all means, try everything to score from open play, even be a greedy bastard and shoot on sight at every opportunity, but do not blow an opportunity of almost a guaranteed goal like that for personal reasons. No no I completely agree with you mate!! And I wasn't sure if it had been discussed on the forum, it was more to do the suspicions he was trying to put himself in the shop window!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 No no I completely agree with you mate!! And I wasn't sure if it had been discussed on the forum, it was more to do the suspicions he was trying to put himself in the shop window!!! Oh I didn't think you were trying to justify what he did or anything! Thinking he was doing it to put himself in the shop window is just silly I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Couldn't agree more. Relly tragic to lose a friend, especially one so young but He should have been professional about it. He gets paid enough to justify us expecting that of him. Malanda will be somewhere upstairs now waiting for an opportunity to reveal his "You tit Kev" T-shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Oh I didn't think you were trying to justify what he did or anything! Thinking he was doing it to put himself in the shop window is just silly I reckon. Good man! I gave him benefit of the doubt from the start. But anyways it's done now hopefully he nets a couple against pool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Not surprising, but not encouraging, either. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/feb/05/kevin-mirallas-everton-new-challenge-new-season "I like it over here, but ..... The general rule of thumb is, "Ignore everything before the 'but.'" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Not surprising, but not encouraging, either. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/feb/05/kevin-mirallas-everton-new-challenge-new-season "I like it over here, but ..... The general rule of thumb is, "Ignore everything before the 'but.'" Thats how I read it. He wants gone. Fair enough, sell him in the summer. Unless of course we win the europa and he will "consider it" - big of ya that Kev lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiediow Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Well, if offers are around £3m-£7m as quoted in January, would be better off keeping him until end of contract and lose him for nothing. The club should decide if we want to sell, not the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Can't be 3-7m, just can't be. He has 12 months +12 month extension if we exercise our clause, 3-7m is ludicrous for a player of his ability with technically 2 years on his contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) So long, Kev. Just make sure you put in everything to get us as high up the table as possible this season. Edited February 5, 2015 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Can't be 3-7m, just can't be. He has 12 months +12 month extension if we exercise our clause, 3-7m is ludicrous for a player of his ability with technically 2 years on his contract Agreed. Probably his agent trying to devalue him to get more interest. Where's he going to go? Spurs to play Europa? I really can't see man uc Chelsea, man city, arsenal, etc going for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Agreed. Probably his agent trying to devalue him to get more interest. Where's he going to go? Spurs to play Europa? I really can't see man uc Chelsea, man city, arsenal, etc going for him. Sounds like he's wanting to move to a different country to me. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I could see him in Spain if a big enough name came calling (Athletico). He is a native Spanish speaker, I believe. Also could see him in Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I could see him in Spain if a big enough name came calling (Athletico). He is a native Spanish speaker, I believe. Also could see him in Germany. Didn't realise his dad was born in Spain; so you may well be right. English is good and probably has a bit of Greek as well, bright lad. I think (if he leaves) the only English side he'd go to, and who would want him, would be Spurs but they're unlikely to get Champs League. Southampton might have it but he won't go there because however well they're doing at the moment they're still a small club. Abroad is the most likely; but try doing the biz in the Europa with us Kev then you can stay with your mate Rom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Never thought of Southampton as a small club. They may not have our history but currently looking like they have a very bright future. Assuming one of the rich 4 don't come in for him, Saints would be a good option for him with their style of play. Still hope he stays mind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Sounds like he's wanting to move to a different country to me. But where? In Spain it won't be real or barca. He doesn't have the work rate and defending for simeone and atletico. So it's Sevilla, Valencia or Villarreal. Just don't see how those are better options than us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Never thought of Southampton as a small club. They may not have our history but currently looking like they have a very bright future. Assuming one of the rich 4 don't come in for him, Saints would be a good option for him with their style of play. Still hope he stays mind you. Depends who you compare them to. They're small compared to us for example; only ever won one major trophy (nearly forty years ago) and only have a 32,000 stadium so little room for growth. Fairly limited fan base. They're having a great spell and I really hope they manage top four this year; but I don't think they will and I don't think their current success is sustainable. Probably Europa next season and they'll end up pretty much where we are in the league, back in the lower reaches which is their natural habitat. Also, no idea what their wage structure is but I'm sure it's smaller than Kev's valuation of himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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