Vranny Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Based on the experience of the first three games, I would say not. He lacks the power, skill, and ball control to play as an out-and-out forward. Admittedly, I'm not familiar with the team from last season, but from what I see this guy is something of a liability. If he's proved to be valuable in the past, he needs to reclaim that form on the practice field. The number of opportunities he's wasted so far this season is scary. (And please forgive my bluntness.) It's funny because if you'd been watching him last season you'd probably regard these as his three main qualities (albeit he covers the speed side of power, rather than strength). Regarding Mirallas as an out-and-out foward I'd say for a usual lone striker role that he's far too weak for such a position (i.e. to hold up the ball and provide an aerial threat for crosses and long balls). However, in a Martinez possession based system I reckon he could work rather well. The real issue that'll stop it from happening this season is our complete lack of wingers. We're even limited in the makeshift winger department Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Based on the experience of the first three games, I would say not. He lacks the power, skill, and ball control to play as an out-and-out forward. Admittedly, I'm not familiar with the team from last season, but from what I see this guy is something of a liability. If he's proved to be valuable in the past, he needs to reclaim that form on the practice field. The number of opportunities he's wasted so far this season is scary. (And please forgive my bluntness.) Id put that down to a sticky patch, because last season he was very impressive. Dont think he can play the loan striker role though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Id put that down to a sticky patch, because last season he was very impressive. Dont think he can play the loan striker role though. Well the few times I've seen him play in that role where his best games that I've seen him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 What do you think will be our most effective striking/forward line up? Just say we are chasing a game after conceding, what will turn the screw on the opposition defence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 gerry, lukaku, mirallas, barkley i'd say rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regulator Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Well the few times I've seen him play in that role where his best games that I've seen him play. Which games incidentally? I agree in principle because that's the role he had at Olympiakos where he was top scorer the season before we got him, if memory serves. I understand he's not the typical midfielder in terms of how he plays his game and what his attributes are, but he's been playing as an RM/RW for us and that's where his future lies for us, at least for this season given our striking options and our lack of width. I think Mirallas will be a great RW eventually but he needs to work on his consistency. The premier league was a step up and he got injured for chunks of last season, but the times I saw him cut inside off the right and use his skill he can be very effective out there. He could be a lone striker for us in the end, but we'd need someone as good or better on the flank to compensate. Plus I see the Coleman/Mirallas partnership developing the more they play together. If we could get them to a level where they can produce what Baines/Pienaar do on their best day, they could tear defenses apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Well the few times I've seen him play in that role where his best games that I've seen him play. in which league though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Mirallas did not play as a centre forward for Olympiakos, he played on the wing. Rafik Djebbour and Marko Pantelic were Olympiakos' centre forwards during Mirallas' time there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 He did play on rare occasions as a CF or part of a striking duo for Belgium. I recalled he ripped the French defense apart once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) He did play on rare occasions as a CF or part of a striking duo for Belgium. I recalled he ripped the French defense apart once. He used to play as part of a striking duo with the much stronger Moussa Dembélé long ago when we still primarily played on the counter attack. Neither of them ripped any defenses apart during that time, apart from one good game against Serbia once. He has also played twice against France. Both were 0-0 draws with very few chances for both teams where he came on after 30 minutes and after 20 minutes (on the wing this time) so their wasn't much shredding through defenses in those games either. Edited September 5, 2013 by Steve_E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) He used to play as part of a striking duo with the much stronger Moussa Dembélé long ago when we still primarily played on the counter attack. Neither of them ripped any defenses apart during that time, apart from one good game against Serbia once. He has also played twice against France. Both were 0-0 draws with very few chances for both teams where he came on after 30 minutes and after 20 minutes (on the wing this time) so their wasn't much shredding through defenses in those games either. I strongly disagree. During the first game against France he created a few chances when he came on and the French defense couldn't cope with him. Best belgian player, though in a substitute role. Edited September 5, 2013 by Mirallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Okay, well, I've seen him play much better on the wing. Which is probably why he's played there 95% of the time by his managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) Okay, well, I've seen him play much better on the wing. Which is probably why he's played there 95% of the time by his managers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Edited September 5, 2013 by Mirallas Kohen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 However effective he may have been in the past, in whatever position, he's not right now! That's ultimately what matters, and he needs to be rested from the starting line-up until he regains his mojo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I like him a lot but I do think he is a bit light weight, certainly to be played up front. He control the ball well enough under pressure and he has always been at his best when he can pick up the ball in space and isolate a defender AKA a winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 mirallas is to weak to play as a lonely forward. he is good as a winger but he is better as a second striker or just behind him thats how he played at olympiakos and score's he's most goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 According to Danny Higginbotham, Everton did the best business in the transfer window. What a tosser the interviewer is - pointing out that Danny Higginbotham and Gareth Bale once played together, and now Bale plays for Real Madrid whereas Higginbotham plays for lowly Chester. I wouldn't have been surprised to see his guest walk off the programme! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Maybe not the best business out of all our competitors and everyone else involved at the time in question, but the fact that most of our supporters were mighty pleased with the end product speaks for itself. Got a very good price for Fellaini in the end, even Anichebe wasn't too bad, and we brought in some other players that people speak highly of, and it appears there is tangible anticipation for the coming weeks and all said, Martinez could well be putting together a very decent line up. Ok we may have missed out on names we really wanted but that is applicable to all clubs that were involved. I'd just like to see them all involved at one point and playing as a collective unit on a regular basis and see where it takes us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/royal-blue-no-cloak-dagger-5851317 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Pretty excited about Lakaku, I'm surprised Chelsea let him go out on loan again. http://imgur.com/gdeeZ76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.