markjazzbassist Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 I think it's more likely that Barca are reacting to us loaning him out tbh - they've seen that the new management aren't that keen on him and we'll be looking to move him on, so Barca have seen a quick way to make some money on him. I thought his contract was they could buy him back the first 2/3 years but if not he was all ours after that. my thinking is barca planned on buying him back (unless he was absolute shit) when that clause came up to sell him for a profit. I think that was their plan all along with that contract and I believe MC said the same when he signed the contract initially. his value has increased because he did look good under Martinez and he's still young and has the barca pedigree, pretty much certain to at least get a deal in Spain or Italy (like a Tello, Munir, etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) I thought his contract was they could buy him back the first 2/3 years but if not he was all ours after that. my thinking is barca planned on buying him back (unless he was absolute shit) when that clause came up to sell him for a profit. I think that was their plan all along with that contract and I believe MC said the same when he signed the contract initially. his value has increased because he did look good under Martinez and he's still young and has the barca pedigree, pretty much certain to at least get a deal in Spain or Italy (like a Tello, Munir, etc). That is his contract, yes, but if he was still in our plans and we weren't putting him in the shop window I don't believe they'd activate that clause. If it's even true that they will anyway. But because we don't look like we want to keep him Barca don't want us making the money on him and will make the profit on him instead. They know we'd get more than £10m for him so they're getting in on it themselves. Edited February 21, 2017 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Thought first season it was £10 mil, second season it went up to like £15m then third season it was gone? I could be wrong with those prices but I'm pretty sure it was only in effect for 2 seasons and does rise. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 It still feels like a loan this. Made up we've got him but sods law is barca could essentially assess him and think "is he worth £15m?,Let's buy him back and flog him for more" Unfortunately barca must have read my post.... may be why they never came in for Rom either ;-) markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Unfortunately barca must have read my post.... may be why they never came in for Rom either ;-) nailed on Haf, maybe it was you I was remembering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) I thought they only had the buy back after 2 seasons (9mEur then 12mEur), which is up after he returns from Milan, no? edit: seems it's after 3 years: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-only-club-gerard-deulofeu-9515492 Edited February 21, 2017 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 I thought they only had the buy back after 2 seasons (9mEur then 12mEur), which is up after he returns from Milan, no? Yep. They can sign him back this summer - last chance. He will probably get sold for about £15m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Yep. They can sign him back this summer - last chance. He will probably get sold for about £15m Depends on the outlet for the 2 or 3 season option. If it's 2 years, that option expires 30th June. If it's 3, we'll just have to wait and see. Still, ball is in our court. We don't have to sell him to Barca, right? Or, at the very least, he doesn't have to agree to the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Depends on the outlet for the 2 or 3 season option. If it's 2 years, that option expires 30th June. If it's 3, we'll just have to wait and see. Still, ball is in our court. We don't have to sell him to Barca, right? Or, at the very least, he doesn't have to agree to the move. Essentially it's a loan dressed up differently. The lad has the talent to be a mega star - they made it so that they would not lose out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Martinez said there's a clause in his contract that if Barca resigned him then they couldn't sell him until he's been there for 12 months. This in theory stops what Barca/Real et al have done in the past but I'm sure there'll be some loophole as there always is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 There was criticism at Barcelona that Deulofeu was allowed to leave in the first place, although Martinez revealed the extent to which the Nou Camp club have protected themselves should the youngsters form be maintained. The buy-back clause is 9m (Euros) for the first year and 12m in the second year, said the Everton manager, who had Deulofeu on loan for the season in 2013-14. There is nothing we can do if they activate it. There are certain things in the deal. They cant take him back in the winter so they cant take him back in January. It can only be at the end of the season. If they take him back they cant sell him for a season, so he has to stay in the first team squad for a season. At the end of that if they decide to sell him, we have got first rights of getting him back or we have got a big percentage of that (fee). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 At least if they buy him back to sell him for a profit we get a percentage of their profits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 At least if they buy him back to sell him for a profit we get a percentage of their profits. They can buy him back but cannot sell him for 12 months after, apparently it's to step them buying him back for 6 million and selling him for twice that amount a week later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 They can buy him back but cannot sell him for 12 months after, apparently it's to step them buying him back for 6 million and selling him for twice that amount a week later. I doubt it will stop them. watch. they buy him back. loan him to a lower Liga side where he's the focus (Granada, las palmas, etc) and bags some goals and assists and then is sold for double. it will happen. he's not going to rot on their bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/deulofeu-loves-ac-milan-future-depends-barcelona Doesn't sound good for him coming back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Barca haven't contacted his agent at all. Doesn't sound like they are wanting him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I think he'll be gone regardless of whether Barca come calling or not. It would be a shame to see him go, but I just don't think he'll stay here after this season. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 doing well in italy, just assisted another goal for milan. thats 1 goal 3 assist in 8 matches. he will be sold to them either by us or Barca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Thought experiment: If he'd never played for Everton, would our scouts pick up on him in Italy and would we see his name somewhere in this forum's Transfers section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Playing in a poor league and getting average results.... no. I still hope he comes good and comes back though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Thought experiment: If he'd never played for Everton, would our scouts pick up on him in Italy and would we see his name somewhere in this forum's Transfers section? nah the italian league is lower quality and a different style of play. also Gerry doesn't fit Koeman's versatile hard working midfielder/winger/striker concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Called up to Spain squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Pleased for the lad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 https://www.clubcall.com/everton/toffees-ace-set-for-barca-reunion-1845915.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Want to see him back in a blue shirt. Loved the lad since he stepped through the door. Unleash that potential here Gerry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 https://www.clubcall.com/everton/toffees-ace-set-for-barca-reunion-1845915.html As we expected, we increase his value and they will take him back at the their last chance. He will play for them for a year and be sold to an Italian or Spanish team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Just don't get it. Went to a poorer league and has been averages and the tabloids saying Barca want him back. I'll b shocked if they take him back, absolutely dumbfounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Just don't get it. Went to a poorer league and has been averages and the tabloids saying Barca want him back. I'll b shocked if they take him back, absolutely dumbfounded. Easier league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Ye that's my point. Easier league and performance is average. Will Barca really take him back? Don't think it's worth the admin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westlo Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Barca would be silly to waste 12m on him.....they'll be better off putting that 12m to use by keeping Messi happy and giving him a new deal, Would also do us all a favor and stop the Messi to City, PSG, United etc tabiod stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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