Guest rusty747 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 If Man C win the FA Cup who gets the Europe Cup place? Man C will qualify for the Champions league so who gets Europa - us or Wigan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) Nope! Wigan get it. Edited May 4, 2013 by c1982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 The only way we can qualify for Europe is by finishing 5th. Southampton are on course to qualify through the fair play table. Liverpool have apparently opted out so that they can go on a pre-sason tour to Asia. http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/fair-play.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Southampton have said they would refuse the place too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Everton being mid table and somehow Arsenal being top in the Fair Play league is a big indicator that its flawed. We should be top for respect towards opponent and respect towards the referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Why would Liverpool/Southampton refuse a place? Doesn't winning the fair-play league allow you access to European football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Liverpool have apparently opted out so that they can go on a pre-sason tour to Asia. http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/205461.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 They always seem to sneak in one way or another. It's a joke that they are at the top of the fair-play league when Suarez is banned for 10 games for biting someone. Bailey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 They always seem to sneak in one way or another. It's a joke that they are at the top of the fair-play league when Suarez is banned for 10 games for biting someone. That table was from about four weeks ago so (possibly) the Suarez situation might impact when it's updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 It should. I'm not just saying it because I'm an Evertonian but you can't have a team being rewarded for good behaviour when they cause a media shitstorm because one of their players can't restrain himself for 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Still think the incident was blown out of all proportion. It was hardly the worst incident of questionable behavior that ever occured in the history of the game, and can't abide Liverpool or the rodent-esque Suarez, but do think the punishment handed out was too severe. Some players cause a fucking sensation or uproar in the news simply because of the name involved, or even club with it. It was newsworthy for a short time, but all water under the bridge now and moving on here, except of course they will miss his involvement tomorrow. Just as well, as I wouldn't want that individual getting a goal against us again. But still an incident, that caused more of a furore than it should have. As mentioned fifth place seems the only way in this season, regardless of who other does what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Still think the incident was blown out of all proportion. It was hardly the worst incident of questionable behavior that ever occured in the history of the game, and can't abide Liverpool or the rodent-esque Suarez, but do think the punishment handed out was too severe. Because biting someone is just a laugh isn't it. I wouldn't have suspended him at all. Pearso 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Ah it wasn't a bite, it was just a nibble. Said before, moved on from that now. It's their business, let them clear it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 But still an incident, that caused more of a furore than it should have. It caused a furore because it was virtually unique; had the level of comment and reporting that it deserved. (No need for a comma in that sentence by the way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Unique in that it wasn't an everyday occurence in British soccer but these types of incidents occur more frequently in some overseas leagues. Grammatical errors and pedants can be attributed to fatigue. Been on the go since first thing. Say again, OK, it wasn't something we need to see in the game here, but if it had been perpetrated (for example) by a Smith or Jones from Sunderland or another less recognized side, it wouldn't have got the level of outburst it indeed received. That's all I have to say on the incident for today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 ...but if it had been perpetrated (for example) by a Smith or Jones from Sunderland or another less recognized side, it wouldn't have got the level of outburst it indeed received. I think it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Un-acceptable behaviour always gets put into the press. How many times have you seen on the BBC 'WATCH: Lower league player from Greece with a horrific tackle'. The media shitstorm was because it was Suarez (but that's because he's been a vile individual in the past) but the fact he was in the press itself wasn't because it was him. Any bit of mental play gets put into the newspaper. Just look at McManaman, Shawcross & Taylor for examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/205461.html That's a shame. Only needed a few more clubs to drop out and we were in with a chance of qualifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Some would argue, they would rather the club had achieved a european place through their own endeavors, rather than be dependant on other teams assistance, or efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Why would Liverpool/Southampton refuse a place? Doesn't winning the fair-play league allow you access to European football? Southampton have said they'd refuse a place because they believe only league placings should earn a European spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 That table was from about four weeks ago so (possibly) the Suarez situation might impact when it's updated. Does it take into account retroactive punishments? I thought that its based on cards, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droobie Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 With Chelsea winning - is 6th good enough? I still can't get my head around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 With Chelsea winning - is 6th good enough? I still can't get my head around it. I dont know, but then we have to lose to Chelsea, so that they gain the 3rd place to automatically qualify for the group stage in CL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 With Chelsea winning - is 6th good enough? I still can't get my head around it. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droobie Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 I forgot about Wigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 the winners of the europa don't get a spot i don't think..hence chelsea would take a league spot if they don't get the champs league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Its all garbage these days. It used to be whoever won it got a place, then if they qualified through the league positions, the league got an extra spot. It changes to suit the Italians usually...when their teams stop winning in Europe, they kick n scream to make sure they still get full benefit. Politics n all that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosetoffee Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Have you seen the rules of the fair play league? http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/fair-play-calculation.html How Liverpool are above us, I don't know. One, most of their players like to dive, two, their players always goes up to the referee to argue. Mostly Gerrard tbh. I'm sorry but anyone with Gerrard and Suarez in their team would no way be 3rd in the league. That isn't me being bias because I am an Everton fan either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troy8 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 It's a real shame how its all changed. Gone are the good old days of finishing where we are and almost being guaranteed European football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 It's a real shame how its all changed. Gone are the good old days of finishing where we are and almost being guaranteed European football It hasn't changed....been this way as long as I can remember. For sixth to qualify you need a top team to win the league cup or the Fa Cup final to be between two top teams, if both occur seventh gets a place. Same as it ever was, we just got unlucky this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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