MikeO Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 TBF Pirlo's was disguised well, I thought he was putting it into the bottom corner. The Maicosuel one is very poor. The only difference for me is that Joe Hart dived out of the way of Pirlo's....the Braga 'keeper stood still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 How can Manchester City be our rivals? Certainly not in terms of (expected) league accomplishments this season, as they'll either be league champs again or second or third place at the very least. Everton won't be a part of that, and I expect a 6th or 7th place finish in all honesty, so they're not really placing rivals so to speak, that can be reserved for teams like Spurs or even Chelsea this season. Or even Newcastle again, teams that maybe won't win any league honors but will be involved in the fight for a Euro place or top six finish. Furthermore, I would ideally want any team that plays Liverpool to beat them, even the plastics now. Lesser of two evils really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Fenerbahce 1 - 1 Spartak Moscow so Spartak will be in the Champions League. Yobo played the full 90 minutes, Bily got subbed into the game after 67 minutes. Bily did well, Yobo really gave the ball away a lot with bad long passes in those final minutes when they were chasing the goal that would take them to overtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 How can Manchester City be our rivals? Certainly not in terms of (expected) league accomplishments this season, as they'll either be league champs again or second or third place at the very least. Everton won't be a part of that, and I expect a 6th or 7th place finish in all honesty, so they're not really placing rivals so to speak, that can be reserved for teams like Spurs or even Chelsea this season. Or even Newcastle again, teams that maybe won't win any league honors but will be involved in the fight for a Euro place or top six finish. Furthermore, I would ideally want any team that plays Liverpool to beat them, even the plastics now. Lesser of two evils really. Opinions and more opinions. I'm confident we have a team good enough to challenge the top 4 this season. Arsenal are severely weakened having lost Fabregas, Nasri, Van Persie etc so I don't see them being a serious threat to the title, nor do I see them in the top 4. We are on a high at present, while Liverpool and Spurs are dropping points. A few more weeks like that and we will have quite a lead. Newcastle must deal with Europe, and I think we are a better team when both are on form, and much more experienced. When City have won the league a few more times, then I'll put them on a higher level than everybody else, but as it is, we are still rivals, if you base it on expectations for the season. We haven't just been playing well for 3 games, but for much of last season too, so it's time to be positive. City would hate to play us at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 As far as I'm concerned every side in the league is a rival, I want us to beat them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Of course we want Everton to beat any, and all opposition we encounter, if only it was that simple, but the thing is, if there is a choice between one team and another getting a result, i.e. Manchester City vs Chelsea or Liverpool vs Arsenal, I would invariably favor one over the other, it's just an inherent dislike I have for certain clubs. I'm sure that applies to a fair number of participants on these pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Of course we want Everton to beat any, and all opposition we encounter, if only it was that simple, but the thing is, if there is a choice between one team and another getting a result, i.e. Manchester City vs Chelsea or Liverpool vs Arsenal, I would invariably favor one over the other, it's just an inherent dislike I have for certain clubs. I'm sure that applies to a fair number of participants on these pages. I know it's not that simple, we're obviously not going to beat them all. But, when other teams are playing each other I always want the result that most benefits Everton. So if Chelsea are playing City and a Chelsea win benefits Everton then a Chelsea win is what I want. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I would indeed go along with that, for the benefit of the club that is, but it would be a bit of a hard pill to swallow for one or two teams I genuinely dislike. Such an instance and one prime example I could mention would be the last day in 1997/98 when we needed a point at least against Coventry City and for Chelsea to beat Bolton. In the end both came to pass, but I really would have prefered another team to have done us that favor. Beat Bolton, Yes, they had to, although a draw for them on the day against whichever opposition would have been been enough to relegate them, had we beaten Coventry that day. Sometimes, and often enough, two teams play, which does not effect Everton in the slightest, the last day Manchester derby such as one, where I clearly favor one side over the other for a result, and it was such an important fixture with so much on the line. I think that's the best case scenario for me in this debate and leave Toffees out of it, but I've been very upfront about my feelings on this. Having some techinical difficulties, and getting late, so we can all continue this another time maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Such an instance and one prime example I could mention would be the last day in 1997/98 when we needed a point at least against Coventry City and for Chelsea to beat Bolton. In the end both came to pass, but I really would have prefered another team to have done us that favor. What was your problem with Chelsea back then? They were a long way from being the "plastics" of of recent history that you dislike so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 What was your problem with Chelsea back then? They were a long way from being the "plastics" of of recent history that you dislike so much. They played in Royal blue, it really is an awful colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 They played in Royal blue, it really is an awful colour. That might have been funny if we didn't play in royal blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Well, I was being sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Well, I was being sarcastic. Reeeeeeaaaaally? I hadn't guessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 See, some people have asked "why the need of a sarcasm font thread?"... Well peeps. The last 5 posts sum up my argument FOR one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 The forum has a literal thinking Aspergers feel about it. Unless something is absolutely clear, irony is lost most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 See, some people have asked "why the need of a sarcasm font thread?"... Well peeps. The last 5 posts sum up my argument FOR one. Please tell me you realise my really post was sarcastic? Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Please tell me you realise my really post was sarcastic? Please. doesn't matter..his point still stands..it's just he is the thick bastard not you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 What?! I was joking!! Of course I knew yours was sarcastic but it was zoo's original reply that made me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Wigan lead already at home to Stoke City though a Shaun Maloney penalty (6 minutes). Here's to hoping Stoke pull their finger out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Wigan lead already at home to Stoke City though a Shaun Maloney penalty (6 minutes). Here's to hoping Stoke pull their finger out. I'm happy Wigan have got off to a good start, was worried they'd finally drop this year. Howcome you prefer Stoke to Wigan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) I prefer anyone to Wigan. Edit: Stoke have just equalised too through a penalty, this time Jonathon Walters is the scorer (40'). Edited September 1, 2012 by Zoo tukmpzvvky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Spurs 1-1 5 mins left and down to 10 men, wrongful red according to Robbie Savage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 WHAT CANT SPURS SEE A FUCKING GAME THROUGH. So pissed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 That result works in our favour. 4 points ahead of Spurs, I'd of took that at the start of the season. Strongest I've ever seen the league, everyone will lose more points than usual this season. I can only see Man City and Chelsea breaking away and the rest having a free for all, hopefully QPR can get a result today and stunt City for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Good thing for us that Spurs lost points imo. Hope that QPR don't get any points against City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 I'm not gutted from an Everton point of view it's just that a put a bet on that included Spurs winning, that's £55.75 that I could have had that AvB has fucked up for me Steve_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 I'm not gutted from an Everton point of view it's just that a put a bet on that included Spurs winning, that's £55.75 that I could have had that AvB has fucked up for me Bad times, I avoided them. My accy was about 50% wrong, tough weekend lots of draws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 i don't even bet now cos there is a worldwide conspiracy against me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 i don't even bet now cos there is a worldwide conspiracy against me Bet against Everton every week, then we all win ... except for your pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 i could never bet on everton..i'd feel dirty takin the money if we lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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