StevO Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Alardyce knows Jussi very well from his time at Bolton, probably trusts him. Green has plenty of mistakes in him. I know who i'd want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Alardyce knows Jussi very well from his time at Bolton, probably trusts him. Green has plenty of mistakes in him. I know who i'd want. They offered Green a double the money contract. Wonder who is willing to pay more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Joe Mattock always looked like quite a good player for the Albion lot. I think he is only 22 or somewhere similar. Also that Tychoi looked a great impact sub last season. Wonder if Moyes will go for Sean Davis? He was about to sign and then failed the medical is that correct about 5 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberblue Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Sean Davis? Michael Owen? Lord help us ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Didnt realise Sean Davies was 32! Used to be quite a tidy player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 A free Brazilian, centre back cover for if we lose Jags or Heits. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/7791969/Henrique-leaves-Barca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 (edited) Didn't Barca say that they'd sell Ibrahim Afellay for only $6m? If only we could make that happen... But yeah, I don't see Henrique coming here, but it's worth Moyes making an inquiry into his interest in coming or not coming here. Edited June 3, 2012 by Quinn31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Moyes wanted Afellay the first time, if he became available, I'm sure he'd enquire about him. I'd love it to happen, really can't see it though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Moyes wanted Afellay the first time, if he became available, I'm sure he'd enquire about him. I'd love it to happen, really can't see it though? Think he would be suited to the prem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Some of the names mentioned on this thread are absolutely ridiculous. Last time I checked we were the 7th best team in the country but some of these players wouldnt make the bench of a half decent Championship team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Starts for Holland, he can't be that bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Moyes wanted Afellay the first time, if he became available, I'm sure he'd enquire about him. I'd love it to happen, really can't see it though? Would be an incredible signing for price mentioned - been injured for about a year but if he can recapture what he had then he'd be a steal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Starts for Holland, he can't be that bad! So did Van der Meyde . Just mean the prem league is a lot harder for some of the players from the Spanish league, Dos Santos has managed to play more for Barcelona than Spurs. Is he more in the Silva/Mata bracket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Not so much improving, but if Baines goes, and Fellaini what are we looking at, £35-40m? and maybe someone like Park thown into the mix. So what do we think Moyes is going to see out of that, maybe £15m. that would leave £20m+ to go back to the bank, debt is said to be around £50m, so that would surely put us in a postion where we no longer have to sell players anymore, things would be more managable? under this board you never know though. Im just trying to think long term and would this stop the whole sell to buy culture at the club. I don't want either player to leave, but the stories are increasing, if we can at least keep one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Not so much improving, but if Baines goes, and Fellaini what are we looking at, £35-40m? and maybe someone like Park thown into the mix. So what do we think Moyes is going to see out of that, maybe £15m. that would leave £20m+ to go back to the bank, debt is said to be around £50m, so that would surely put us in a postion where we no longer have to sell players anymore, things would be more managable? under this board you never know though. Im just trying to think long term and would this stop the whole sell to buy culture at the club. I don't want either player to leave, but the stories are increasing, if we can at least keep one of them. suddenly its 50m from 45m? Its exaggerations like this that give the BS stories of done-deals the momentum! IF we sold both, its 40m+. If it was me, close the overdraft off and buy Finch Farm, remaining 15m on 2 reasonable replacements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 buy Finch Farm I don't think it's that simple. I think Louis said that in the agreement there's an option for us to buy it back after so many years, so we couldn't just buy it back whenever we wanted. When is that btw, Louis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 suddenly its 50m from 45m? Its exaggerations like this that give the BS stories of done-deals the momentum! IF we sold both, its 40m+. If it was me, close the overdraft off and buy Finch Farm, remaining 15m on 2 reasonable replacements. Im not sure what the actual number is, i googled to try and find out and that was what came up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Im not sure what the actual number is, i googled to try and find out and that was what came up. fair enough. was 45m last year to the best of my knowledge and certain sites were saying its the same this year despite player sales etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 fair enough. was 45m last year to the best of my knowledge and certain sites were saying its the same this year despite player sales etc... How can it stay the same though, we sold Arteta and Beckford to pay the bank, but the debt stayed the same? that does'nt make sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 How can it stay the same though, we sold Arteta and Beckford to pay the bank, but the debt stayed the same? that does'nt make sense interest on debt, new signings (signing on fees on top of that).... If we were paying Pienaars wages of 75k a week over 4-5 months, thats 1.2m then the loan fee on top of that, Fellis new 75k a week deal.... Adds up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 interest on debt, new signings (signing on fees on top of that).... If we were paying Pienaars wages of 75k a week over 4-5 months, thats 1.2m then the loan fee on top of that, Fellis new 75k a week deal.... Adds up So we sold players to pay a bank debt but did'nt actually pay anything to the bank? that just sums up the current regime to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) So we sold players to pay a bank debt but did'nt actually pay anything to the bank? that just sums up the current regime to me dude, as with everyone on all forums, im guessing (which is my whole point about us not really knowing whats going on behind the scenes). I imagine we will have paid the bank something, at least the interest owed if not more. wasnt there 1.5m lost on ticket sales this year? and a loss on TV money? Louis posted them somewhere.... Edited June 7, 2012 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) dude, as with everyone on all forums, im guessing (which is my whole point about us not really knowing whats going on behind the scenes). I imagine we will have paid the bank something, at least the interest owed if not more. wasnt there 1.5m lost on ticket sales this year? and a loss on TV money? Louis posted them somewhere.... Its all very pie in the sky because like you say noone knows what's going on, this is why better communication is needed, but it's never going to happen I know there was a loss on TV, and ticket sales were down last season i remember reading about it. Edited June 7, 2012 by theprisoner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy1983 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I think it's very important Everton hold on to Baines and Jagielka this summer. Good, realistic signings for you, IMO, would be: Pienaar I think K Schmeichel will be a great premiership keeper soon and with Howard 40-ish would you be happy with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I think it's very important Everton hold on to Baines and Jagielka this summer. Good, realistic signings for you, IMO, would be: Pienaar I think K Schmeichel will be a great premiership keeper soon and with Howard 40-ish would you be happy with him? Tim Howards only 33, still got 5 years in him. As for Baines and Jags the latter is not vital, and it wouldn't be the end of the world if Baines left as long as the price was right, tbh it might end up a blessing in disguise. Reduce debt and give the youth more of a chance, one step back two steps forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy1983 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Oh ok sorry I thought he was closer to 40 for some reason? Pienaar is a great player who couldn't be utilised by Redknapp but Moyes seems to get the best out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Howard seems to have been around for a long time is was it is, but he was only 33 recently so there's still life in the old dog yet, he has been an indispensable part of the club for years and another in the line of very fine goalkeepers we have seen at Goodison. I think if we can keep hold of our prize assets this summer and beyond, there's scope there for another good season, but the Moyes situation will continue. I do feel, With an (more) attack minded manager that isn't afraid to take a gamble, they could be utilized more efficiently maybe and we could see more productivity, Jelavic is one such example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) Just going through the team and we look in pretty good shape for next season Gk: Howard, Mucha ~ Fine, unless there is a better keeper than Howard is available RB: Hibbert, Neville, Coleman, Browning ~ No need to find anyone LB: Baines, Neville, Distin, Garbutt ~ Low priority, unless Baines goes or has a long-term injury RCB: Hietinga, Jags, Duffy ~ Quality LCB: Disin, Heitinga ~ Low priority, only if a free transfer DM: Gibson, Junior ~ Good CM: Fellaini, Osman, Rodwell ~ Quality RM: Naismith, Osman, Coleman ~ Good enough, medium priority. Players that would improve: s-t Weiss, l-t Donovan LM: Gueye, Osman, Anichebe ~ High priority. s-t Pranjic (can cover LB and in the middle),Barnetta, l-t Hoilett AM: Cahill, Fellaini, Barkley ~ Low priority. Only need a short term replacement as Cahill is too old to start every week and Barkley too young. Ideal player to improve us: s-t Dempsey FW: Jelavic, Anichebe, Naismith, Vellios, McAleny, Hope ~ Low priority only if a better player than Jela becomes available Possible Outs: Yobo, Cahill, Silva, McAleny, Coleman = est £10 mil; wage = -100/week (Yobo not included as not here last year) In: Donovan(assuming free from xmas), Pranjic (or Barnetta), Dempsey, Hoilett (or Weiss) = est. £10 mil; wage = 180k/week Investment needed: £4 million to cover wages, possible covered by new tv deal. Personally think all are possible with admittedly Dempsey and Coleman being a long shots, but still viable. I'd have included Elia as a long shot to, but looks like he's going to Werder Bremen. Edited July 6, 2012 by pete0 markduff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaminfox Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 I think anichebe, yobo and cahill will leave this summer. Hopefully we will have Naismith, Pranjic, Barnetta, Donovan, Peinaar and someone else (hopefully holtby xD) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Barnetta has signed for Schalke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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