Memmaclub Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 He cannot get us any further we would have lost the final anyway. I 100% believe the players were told if you go in front defend it. In moyes head he is already an Everton great let him go on that high and get Brendan Rodgers Paul lambert etc. we can moan about investment but certain managers just can't cut it above a certain level. In Europe moyes struggled to Cope. He gets the win against city and spurs but can't beat Wigan. We lost to a side today who are being slated by everyone for under performing and we have been beaten convincingly by them twice in a month. I am back to my opinion that we are mediocre until we are relegated and made to take a look at ourselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Depends what you want, if you want 7-10th place in the league, boring football, negativity and just be happy to take part in the premier league. Where was drenthe? How did gueye last so long, what the fuck was Cahill doing on the pitch??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 cahill created a goal with his attitude to chase down...who would you have played instead...pathetic 2nd half though i am disgusted with them after that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 oh surprise surprise. youre back with youre bashing. Going to nick-name you Knee-Jerk - emphasis one the Jerk part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adziom Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Yeah Moyes is so shit, lost 3 in the last 18 games. Go and have a lie down and make your judgements based on more than what you've seen in the past 2 and a half hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Jelavic, felli, Neville, hold your heads up... Moyes, grow an arse you sandbagging flair opposed negative ball bag. Last two games at wembley we looked happy just to be there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 You can say what you like but I strongly feel that under Mr Moyes Everton Football Club will not win anything again, we've been through the whole deal before, i.e, 'League finishes since 2002, Champions League berth' etc etc that Moyes has produced since his arrival, and hats off to the man, he has done well, but you don't get any honors for finishing in a fourth or sixth place in the EPL. The Cup tourneys represent where the trophies are at, and we still haven't won anything in way of that with Moyes in charge, the man seems to implode in vital matches, today was no different, we had a great opportunity to do something today and I sit here trying to find the appropriate words on the back of a recent hurting setback, bottom line is, said it so many times, I have nothing against Moyes as an individual but feel we simply won't win anything so long as the Scot remains in charge, he just hasn't got the motivation or loses it at the most critical times, today was no different. We could have been in a fucking FA cup Final today and missed out when it was perfectly feasible we could have beat those today but it simply didn't come to pass, there's little we can do about it now after the event but for the last time, so long as Moyes is EFC manager, I can't see another trophy at Goodison Park. You can quote me on that if you like until/when the Scot leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 The two rs goalscorers cost more than our entire team, if we actually had enough money a couple of our players today wouldn't have been any where near the wembly turf. Pienaar is our best/most creative player and he was missing, Baines plays better when he's there. We've just lost a game of football to the most unpopular team in the country......get over it. As for Moyes, he's got us to 7th with a small squad and a cup semi-final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 i do not want to hear the money excuse today...it's fuckin pathetic...we have a better team end of....distin gifted them a goal and coleman gifted them a chance...moyes gifted them the chances to attack..simple as Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Apathy is killing this club, ffs people who knew that we were bigger than the mancs, Chelsea, arsenal, spurs twenty five years ago are getting smaller by the day. Kids from the 90's - enjoy this if you think it's good enough it's bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Just heard what Distin's just said, I feel a bit bad now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Just heard what Distin's just said, I feel a bit bad now Yeah i saw that, i think it's harsh, yes he made a catostrophic mistake but it's a team game and plenty of others did'nt cover themselves in glory, Carrolls goal came off the back of his head because Fellaini stood back 2 yards, and did'nt challenge for the header, Gibson kept giving the ball away, I don't think Distin should blame himself too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Apathy is killing this club, ffs people who knew that we were bigger than the mancs, Chelsea, arsenal, spurs twenty five years ago are getting smaller by the day. Kids from the 90's - enjoy this if you think it's good enough it's bollocks. Im not saying i want him too go, but the harsh reality is i don't think we will ever win anything under Moyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Exactly, it's a team game!! Moyes will be gone come next season, Redknapp > England Moyes > Tottenham ______ > Everton You heard it first. ( that's sarcasm by the way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adziom Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 No other club would sack Moyes given what he's achieved. It's a results business, it hurts today but he's still taken a club with a thin squad and money owed to the banks to an FA Cup semi-final and a top ten finish. Who else would you have? Swansea might play nicer football than us, and Norwich might give it a good go, but they're still below us in the league and I don't see either of them playing at Wembley this weekend. Like I've mentioned before, Steve Coppell took Reading to a top half finish in their first season in the Premier League, look what's happened to his career since. What's to say the same won't happen to Rodgers and Lambert in the next five years? I really don't understand why people think we should be winning trophies. Obviously we want to, but we're not a top club at the moment, its sad but its true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Exactly, it's a team game!! Moyes will be gone come next season, Redknapp > England Moyes > Tottenham ______ > Everton You heard it first. ( that's sarcasm by the way) Your right though, i think if we would have got the final and won he would have stayed because he would have a cup under his belt and be looking forward, but i can't see it now, he must know the fans are going to be pissed and i do think if Spurs come calling now, he will go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I'd like to see Moyes manage England, I can say that, as what they do doesn't really interest me, but it would be interesting if nothing else. Ok, a Scot in charge of the national side can't happen really, they would never allow it, but picture the scene, England vs Spain in the Euro Final and Moyes orchestrates the days events and see what he does, it would be something to see I merely feel, I know this could never happen though. This year/season represented a good chance, at least today, for Moyes to maybe actually win something finally after a decade in charge, that opportunity has been and gone, 10 years have now passed and no actual silver to show for it, so just possibly Mr Moyes could make a departure if not this summer then sometime soon after, of course we don't know what will happen but there you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 What a bunch of morans Everton fans are. Maybe you would rather be playing in the championship because that is were Everton would be without Moyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 What a bunch of morans Everton fans are. Maybe you would rather be playing in the championship because that is were Everton would be without Moyes. Why is it some Evertonians seem to think Moyes is the only manager in WORLD football who has worked with a small squad and small budget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 why the fuck shouldn't distin blame himself? what a pathetic fuckin back pass that was....for that pass alone he gave the game back to liverpool along with moyes gettin them to defend a lead as he always does...brad jones had fuck all to do...fuckin fumin with that team right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 What a bunch of morans Everton fans are. Maybe you would rather be playing in the championship because that is were Everton would be without Moyes. i'm not sayin moyes should go but do you wanna explain that second half? cos the second they came out they were pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanchesterCity Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 It's not the Everton some older folks know - the world's changed. But, you're not in a total mess either. I have absolutely no desire to offend, but it seems Everton are stuck as 'top end of the mid table teams'. It just takes a LOT of money, or a once every 5 years type season to get into that top 6 area. It's just bloody hard, and that's the fact of the matter. Moyes has got sod all to spend, and to get those '10% better players' you have to spend 50% more (at least). It's easy to say "we'll never win anything with Moyes", but Arsenal haven't won anything for 5 years, they've been much better than Everton in recent years. Spurs have won one league cup and spent massively more than Everton. City have won one FA cup and spent fortune. If Moyes faultless? no... what manager is? Could someone do a better job?... possibly Is it a risk worth taking?... I don't think so. The difficulties in getting to be top 6 year in year out are immense, whilst the ease at which top clubs can find themselves in deep (e.g. Villa) should be a real warning. It will hurt like hell today. Just as it will hurt City losing the league to United, or Spurs being pipped by Arsenal. But Everton remain a top top club, struggling with the money mess of football, and have a solid manager at the helm. It simply isn't that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanchesterCity Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 i'm not sayin moyes should go but do you wanna explain that second half? cos the second they came out they were pathetic It happens to the best of teams too. You just get says when the 'winning mentality' isn't 100% there and your opponents have it (which is a pain in the arse, but the truth of the matter). Every player makes mistakes.... it's just sods law that Carroll misses sitters, then gets a winner, whilst a stalwart for Everton makes a mistake and it costs you. Surely to God, that Everton team WANTED to win something, wanted to get to Wembley.... it just can't be from lack of effort, just inexperience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanchesterCity Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Exactly, it's a team game!! Moyes will be gone come next season, Redknapp > England Moyes > Tottenham ______ > Everton You heard it first. ( that's sarcasm by the way) Sarcasm? it's damn realistic. Next Everton manager? Roberto Martinez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Sarcasm? it's damn realistic. Next Everton manager? Roberto Martinez. Not for me, Phil Neville? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 It's not the Everton some older folks know - the world's changed. But, you're not in a total mess either. I have absolutely no desire to offend, but it seems Everton are stuck as 'top end of the mid table teams'. It just takes a LOT of money, or a once every 5 years type season to get into that top 6 area. It's just bloody hard, and that's the fact of the matter. Moyes has got sod all to spend, and to get those '10% better players' you have to spend 50% more (at least). It's easy to say "we'll never win anything with Moyes", but Arsenal haven't won anything for 5 years, they've been much better than Everton in recent years. Spurs have won one league cup and spent massively more than Everton. City have won one FA cup and spent fortune. If Moyes faultless? no... what manager is? Could someone do a better job?... possibly Is it a risk worth taking?... I don't think so. The difficulties in getting to be top 6 year in year out are immense, whilst the ease at which top clubs can find themselves in deep (e.g. Villa) should be a real warning. It will hurt like hell today. Just as it will hurt City losing the league to United, or Spurs being pipped by Arsenal. But Everton remain a top top club, struggling with the money mess of football, and have a solid manager at the helm. It simply isn't that bad. Completely agree if I'm honest. Blue, the sarcasm was meant for the "heard it here first" bit....knowing that's what people have been saying for a while. ...and Martinez? Not a chance in hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Why is it some Evertonians seem to think Moyes is the only manager in WORLD football who has worked with a small squad and small budget? Because before moyes came to Everton they were fighting relegation every season, I know what I prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Because before moyes came to Everton they were fighting relegation every season, I know what I prefer. Im not saying he should go, but to say no one else can do the job is just naive. For now he is probably the right option, but i don't see us winning anything with him, and he does seem to be a bit of a bottler at times Edited April 14, 2012 by theprisoner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twintown Toffee Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Who can the Blues attract that would be a better option than Moyes? Given the current state of the club I just don't see anybody.....now some deep pocketed investors on the other hand.....that could change things for the better, and by better I mean a realistic chance to play in Europe and contend for the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 With the transfer budget we have I fear for the future if Moyes goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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