Dalziel Kane Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Johnson was a bit of a let down for me, apart from some decent performances when first arriving from Palace, most notably two against the shite in an early season 3-0 derby victory I don't really remember much, same as with Beattie, he was very good at Southampton, but even people at St Marys say he was nowhere near a club legend, but once Moyes brought him in, standout moments were few and far between, in fact I even have trouble highlighting any of Beattie's Everton greater claims to fame, sometimes it's easy to forget he was even here sometimes I like Saha as a striker and hope he's around for a little while longer yet, he is a proven center forward and on his day can deliver, there are a number of significant Championship players in this department that could maybe become available in the close season we could take a look at, there's always the story that they take time to adapt to the level of the premier league and playing at a higher division is a whole new ball game as is usually the case, I think if Beckford had stayed at Leeds the Yorkshire side could maybe of been back in the premier league this season as they just missed out last time, I think he may well of been the difference, apart from a few standout moments at Goodison It just didn't happen for him although getting £2,500,000 for him from Leicester was good business when we grabbed him on a free in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Johnson was very quick, and ran all over the pitch until he dropped, hence why a similar striker would be useful. Compare that to Beattie, Yakubu, Saha etc. We had similar with Beckford's pace, but he wasn't here long enough to settle in my opinion. A bit of pace up front would allow us to break quicker, and get in behind the defenders. Our movement is unimaginative at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Johnson was a bit of a let down for me, apart from some decent performances when first arriving from Palace, most notably two against the shite in an early season 3-0 derby victory I don't really remember much, same as with Beattie, he was very good at Southampton, but even people at St Marys say he was nowhere near a club legend, but once Moyes brought him in, standout moments were few and far between, in fact I even have trouble highlighting any of Beattie's Everton greater claims to fame, sometimes it's easy to forget he was even here sometimes I like Saha as a striker and hope he's around for a little while longer yet, he is a proven center forward and on his day can deliver, there are a number of significant Championship players in this department that could maybe become available in the close season we could take a look at, there's always the story that they take time to adapt to the level of the premier league and playing at a higher division is a whole new ball game as is usually the case, I think if Beckford had stayed at Leeds the Yorkshire side could maybe of been back in the premier league this season as they just missed out last time, I think he may well of been the difference, apart from a few standout moments at Goodison It just didn't happen for him although getting £2,500,000 for him from Leicester was good business when we grabbed him on a free in the first place Beattie scored one of the best Everton goals i've witnessed, a chip from just outside the area. On the same day there was about 10 goals that anyone of them could have been goal of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Off track I know but a mate of mine went up to Utd v Wolves yesterday, said Jarvis was outstanding, I know he is a winger, were we not linked to him last season? If David Moyes wants to continue playing 4-5-1 then Vic, Saha,Vellios can't all be picked, but we need pace on the wing, is that the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Johnson was very quick, and ran all over the pitch until he dropped, hence why a similar striker would be useful. Compare that to Beattie, Yakubu, Saha etc. We had similar with Beckford's pace, but he wasn't here long enough to settle in my opinion. A bit of pace up front would allow us to break quicker, and get in behind the defenders. Our movement is unimaginative at the moment. Seeing AJ yesterday showed him up for what he is, a '' ball over the top'' player and was easily contained, Dempsey however is very clever, don't know his age but would play as a lone front man for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Seeing AJ yesterday showed him up for what he is, a '' ball over the top'' player and was easily contained, Dempsey however is very clever, don't know his age but would play as a lone front man for us. Always liked Dempsey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Simon Davies was booed when replaced, I clapped him off, nearly got in a slanging match with some twat, some so called welsh fans are right twats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Simon Davies was booed when replaced, I clapped him off, nearly got in a slanging match with some twat, some so called welsh fans are right twats! Ha ha that's jacks for u!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Flippin' eck. Did anybody know we had them Welsh fellows in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Flippin' eck. Did anybody know we had them Welsh fellows in? We are the maffioso didn't ya know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 gwyliwch ein bod yn dod! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 O leiaf maent yn galluogi Cymru i fod yn rhan o'r Deyrnas Unedig, yn hytrach na chymryd pâr anferth o sisyrnau, ac yn ei adael i arnofio i ffwrdd yn y môr Gwyddelig, ni welwyd hi eto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 O leiaf maent yn galluogi Cymru i fod yn rhan o'r Deyrnas Unedig, yn hytrach na chymryd pâr anferth o sisyrnau, ac yn ei adael i arnofio i ffwrdd yn y môr Gwyddelig, ni welwyd hi eto. rhoi'r gorau i ddwyn ein dŵr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 rhoi'r gorau i ddwyn ein dŵr! Lol. Gadewch i ni basio dŵr ynddo, yna gallwch gael yn ôl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Lol. Gadewch i ni basio dŵr ynddo, yna gallwch gael yn ôl. Rwy'n falch bod gennych cyfieithydd da iawn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everton_Worshiper Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Anyone like Steven Fletcher from Wolves? Liked him every game I have seen him play in, and he will be within our budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Anyone like Steven Fletcher from Wolves? Liked him every game I have seen him play in, and he will be within our budget. I like him but would he really be within our budget? Wolves paid £5million-£6million for him didn't they? And they'd be looking to at least recoup that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 I reckon we'll go for that Nicky Maynard, not sure why, just do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Savage Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) Apparently Moyes made an approach for Henry on loan. That's Thierry Henry. Looks like any cash Moyes has is either ringfenced ( ha ha ) for a creative force or is no existant. I would cheer for the former and the Union would gain support for the latter. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/mobile/football/gossip_and_transfers/9660123.stm Edited December 12, 2011 by Noble Savage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 I reckon we'll go for that Nicky Maynard, not sure why, just do. Hope so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Seeing AJ yesterday showed him up for what he is, a '' ball over the top'' player and was easily contained, Dempsey however is very clever, don't know his age but would play as a lone front man for us. Dempsey is a midfielder in the mould of a Lampard or a Cahill, he gets into the box late without being picked up. I doubt very much that he would be able to play as a lone striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted December 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Apparently Moyes made an approach for Henry on loan. That's Thierry Henry. Looks like any cash Moyes has is either ringfenced ( ha ha ) for a creative force or is no existant. I would cheer for the former and the Union would gain support for the latter. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/mobile/football/gossip_and_transfers/9660123.stm If this is true it doesn't look good for any new transfers in January, where's this money BK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie_1938 Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Saha score 8/10 chances!? That's pretty optimistic that mate...1/4-5 at best! Saha is no better than yakubu in my opinion, both lazy but can score at times although the yak seems to score more from nothing and can hold up play pretty well. Both are pretty useless in a lone role. Beattie had his moments and had a decent run of goals at one stage. That chip against fulham was a cracker but ultimately it just never seemed to work out for him. We got good business from Johnson who had a half decent spell at everton. With Johnson atleast we had a bit of movement up front to drag defenders and cause problems...a luxury we certainly we don't have with the current strikeforce. I wonder sometimes if moyes deliberately sets out negative, flat tactics in order to show the board we're in drastic need of some support and investment (a form of protest perhaps). Whilst he was getting the best out of the team and finishing top 7 consistently the board were happy and content to rest on their lorals as there wasn't a problem on the pitch. Now things are bad we've suddenly got money to spend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Bobby Zamora seems to have a problem with Jol, may be available on the cheap. No spring chicken, and not a world beater, but he is a half decent premier league forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted December 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Bobby Zamora seems to have a problem with Jol, may be available on the cheap. No spring chicken, and not a world beater, but he is a half decent premier league forward. I was thinking along these lines, when he was on for England, against Sweden I think up front in his own , I thought he could do a job for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 I was thinking along these lines, when he was on for England, against Sweden I think up front in his own , I thought he could do a job for us. Zamora is on his way to Villa according to the radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Bobby Zamora seems to have a problem with Jol, may be available on the cheap. No spring chicken, and not a world beater, but he is a half decent premier league forward. NO!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 thank god he is on his way to villa,another nearly man. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 He was always like Carew though, a nearly man who you could 'nearly' always guarantee he'd score against us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Thing is, the way we play Zamora is the sort of player who would probably score a few goals for us, but really, even on our budget i think we can do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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