c1982 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 merged Thanks - let the madness begin!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Rather we sold him for good money and bring Pienaar back. He's good when he's good, but no great loss if he doesn't sign. Not enough hours on the pitch in form for my liking. Great minds think alike ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Is he fit? As he's not even been on the bench this season I'd assumed he was injured . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 ive been pondering this this afternoon and the only thing i can think of is why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 He's fit today but still not involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 dont want him back tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 ive been pondering this this afternoon and the only thing i can think of is why? I will answer a question with a question... When is the last time anybody linked up with Baines down our left hand side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I will answer a question with a question... When is the last time anybody linked up with Baines down our left hand side? Osman and he done a much better job than Pienaar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I will answer a question with a question... When is the last time anybody linked up with Baines down our left hand side? This. With Pienaar back and Drenthe on the other wing, we might finally have some balance all the way across our midfield. The last time we had that was when Donovan was on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Osman and he done a much better job than Pienaar Since Pienaar has left our left side has been half as effective as it was, both getting forward and defensively. Im not saying he was the greatest provider, but if you look back at all the goals we scored from open play with him at the club, you would probably find that he has had a large part to play in a majority of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 We're talking about a player of the year here, and our best player in some time. I wouldn't think twice about having him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Can't see any negatives with having him back. But I can see why some people wouldn't want too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Osman and he done a much better job than Pienaar Dont be ridiculous, Osman is not and never will be a wide player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Dont be ridiculous, Osman is not and never will be a wide player Niethers Pienaar. Stats don't lie, he was useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Niethers Pienaar. Stats don't lie, he was useless. Stats don't lie, but they may not always tell the whole story! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Stats don't lie, but they may not always tell the whole story! The majority of fans shifted opinion of him before he left, and Osman done a much better job. Pienaar ran a lot and little else. Pienaar had one of the easiest jobs in football to jus lay the ball off to Baines and he even struggled to do that at times with his wasteful 'skills' and shocking final ball. Then there's his shooting his goals to shot ratio would even make Tony Hibbert blush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I agree he wasn't the perfect wide man, but centrally he was fine. Baines has been a shaddow of himself since Pienaar left. He had a very good assist rate too. He kept fairly fit, and gave the team flair. We were playing wonderful football not too long ago, and he was a big reason why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I agree he wasn't the perfect wide man, but centrally he was fine. Baines has been a shaddow of himself since Pienaar left. He had a very good assist rate too. He kept fairly fit, and gave the team flair. We were playing wonderful football not too long ago, and he was a big reason why. Pienaar never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 So we bring a player back who we couldnt agree a contract with, or couldnt afford, and not only pay his wages but also loan fee?? Im not a genius with money but that doesnt make any sense to me. Then again neither does paying 3 million for a player who you bleat on about being intrestesd in the boy and then leave him out the team week in week out! Then ttheres also the fact Pienaar wanted CL football, well he did get the one game didnt he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) Loan fees and wage fees wouldn't be an issue with me, if we can take McFaddy back and pay him a wage, i'd sure as fook take Pienaar back, without a moments hesitation. Edited October 31, 2011 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 I agree that He was never a very good delivery man nor was his shooting ability but the graft He put in and the running He did along with Baines opended teams up and stats or not you can't say the partnership of Baines and Pienaar did not work. For Me we had one of the best flanks in the League in those two and I'm with Bailey on having him back in his old spot and drafting Drethe over to the right with Coleman. I think we could cause teams some trouble with the above and I would have him back in a flash, oh and Osman is a woeful wide man in the middle of the park is where He belongs other then that the bench is his next best position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 His assist stats in recent years were exellent, even if he wasn't a prolific scorer. You'll also find that for many assists Baines had, there was normally a Pienaar pass to Baines involved before hand. I can't really see why 'any' fan would not want him back, other than principles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Frankly I worry about how much it will cost to bring back a player who actually WANTED to leave in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 This. With Pienaar back and Drenthe on the other wing, we might finally have some balance all the way across our midfield. The last time we had that was when Donovan was on loan. this. would have him back tomorrow if fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 This. With Pienaar back and Drenthe on the other wing, we might finally have some balance all the way across our midfield. The last time we had that was when Donovan was on loan. Rather get Donovan back on loan than Pienaar. Seems to have gone quiet on him, thought there'd be more hype to get him back again around about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Osman and he done a much better job than Pienaar Bollocks I like Ozzie but he is nowhere near as effective as Pienaar was on the left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 I've already had this debate can't find it, but Osman pisses all over Pienaar. Think Osmans stats were twice as good (which still isn't the best) but he's in and out the team and got played all over the park. If Osman was first choice ahead of Pienaar we would have got more goals and finished higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Im not saying Ozzie isnt a good player, in fact I think he is great. I just dont think he is as effective on the left as Pienaar was and since his departure we have been missing something on the left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 pienaars stats might not been great, he may not have had lots of assists, but how many of baines assists had pienaar involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 In the time he was with us , in just the league (not cups) he had 10 goals and 20 assists. I don't have figures for the cups, but he did score and assist in those too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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