pete0 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 We've got to appeal first and Moyes doesn't seem to want to Extra match ban if yer lose the appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Extra match ban if yer lose the appeal. That's only if the FA deem the appeal frivilous (or however you spell it), and not every rejected appeal is deemed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iggy Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 How can they NOT appeal........ http://i51.tinypic.com/2hdcr4m.jpg Doesn't matter how many times you watch it, it's hard to even call it a foul never mind a challenge worthy of a straight red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 How can they NOT appeal........ http://i51.tinypic.com/2hdcr4m.jpg Doesn't matter how many times you watch it, it's hard to even call it a foul never mind a challenge worthy of a straight red Its insanity how any ref could call that a foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Neville Southall "Everton's referee was a joke. If that was a red card, I am a red indian. He needs to be charged with fraud, did he have an away win at the bookies?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 It was a royal fuck up. Bollock well and truly dropped. it happens from time to time usually in the derby It just ruins what should have been a great game. I thought it was shaping up to be a good match and a goal would have sparked it into life. Everyone suffers due to a very hasty refereeing decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Neville Southall "Everton's referee was a joke. If that was a red card, I am a red indian. He needs to be charged with fraud, did he have an away win at the bookies?" Clinical analysis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 The more I look at the foul the more I'm not sure. Is the rule about what is allowed clear enough? He only has 1 foot up, but can you go in like that? The fact Suarez didn't get injured is possibly irrelevant. It needs a proper looking at by the relevant bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Are you trying to say that it was a foul? :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 his foot is on the ground when it gets to suarez and doesn't touch him..the other leg does but that's pulled away so he didn't do a two footed tackle..that is a fuckin disgrace..looks so much worse when you see it there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 The only part that touches Suarez is his knee, which obviously is going to be there by accident. I'd love the FA to actually do something about Atkinson because he's an absolute bellend but of course they won't because we must have 'Respect for the Official'. After that game I have no respect at all for the match officials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Are you trying to say that it was a foul? :/ I'm asking what the ruling is. Can you go in hard regardless of whether you catch the man? You need to ask 'what if' and that's why the ruling needs to be clear. Had Suarez' leg been there, would it be a dangerous foul? The fact that his leg 'wasn't' there is irrelevant. My first reaction was based on him getting the ball cleanly, but I don't know if that is enough for it to be within the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 I dont know the rule exactly but its something like; You can go in with as much force is needed so long as you take the ball and dont show any intent to injure the player. Based on that judgement its not a foul, he slides in at a normal speed and takes the ball cleanly, if you look at his head he's looking past LS at where the ball has hone so no malicion. (sp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanchesterCity Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 If the referee believes their was genuine intent OR the challenge was so wreckless (even without intent) that it posed a danger, he's entitled to send off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 if his leg had been there he might not have tackled..he did tackle..his foot was down when it got near suarez..his other foot was behind him..not a foul..no intent..not dangerous..full stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 If the referee believes their was genuine intent OR the challenge was so wreckless (even without intent) that it posed a danger, he's entitled to send off This is why you shouldn't be on our forum - fuck off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 It's called entertainment fella, if you will....'banter', I've had enough good natured 'banter' from Bitters over the last few years the club was on the precipice, so don't talk down to me, for doing exactly the same as they have done in the past on various forums, you self righteous gobshite. lad...before you go to bed turn all your gas taps on, it's ace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 If the referee believes their was genuine intent OR the challenge was so wreckless (even without intent) that it posed a danger, he's entitled to send off I think you mean reckless....though as Suarez wasn't remotely damaged I suppose it could be described as wreckless as well (at a stretch). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 We played well today or we were playing well today. Moyes set up alright (even after the misjustice). We were just robbed of the excellent game we should have seen by an inferior referee. Today I'm not ashamed by the performance or result, I am still suffering disbelief at how we have been once again anally fucked by shit refereeing and to be honest I don't think I'm being bitter saying this, the refs fooking hate us!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 ...also... pre sending off (and in patches after), excellent atmosphere - best in a long, long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 (edited) Worst tackle in the game was Charlie Adams and that should have been a yellow(not that he got one like). If that refs not sacked, Everton should seriously pursue another football association because the English FA are corrupt as fuck King Kenny thought they were great. What a joke. they played shit and got lucky they had a cunt for a ref Edited October 1, 2011 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Worst tackle in the game was Charlie Adams and that should have been a yellow(not that he got one like). If that refs not sacked, Everton should seriously pursue another football association because the English FA are corrupt as fuck King Kenny thought they were great. What a joke. they played shit and got lucky they had a cunt for a ref Not even mentioned on MOTD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Not even mentioned on MOTD! Jus had a kopite say how bad Hibberts challenge was cos he's jus seen it pointed out. Replied to him Adams was just as bad. Kopite: What you on about? Didn't see it .. Can't remember it mustn't have been that bad, they didn't show it Me: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Jus had a kopite say how bad Hibberts challenge was cos he's jus seen it pointed out. Replied to him Adams was just as bad. Kopite: What you on about? Didn't see it .. Can't remember it mustn't have been that bad, they didn't show it Me: The Quim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 (edited) If a trailing leg takes the opponent down after the ball is won then it's not a foul is it. Ref was a joke! As moyes said, he hasn't ref'd one of our games since his last terrible performance that was critisised by him and round. They got £8k fines each and this was his first everton game since then. Edited October 1, 2011 by StevO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Apparently Lord Grantchester is prepared to offer Luis Suarez a job on his dairy farm, he's good at milking it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanchesterCity Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 This is why you shouldn't be on our forum - fuck off! If you bothered to actually read - I stated very clearly during the game, it was never a sending off. This isn't about the incident, it's about the rules - totally different subject. It was never a sending off. Go and actually read what people post before you shout your mouth off. I know it's been a bad day, but 90% of folks on here have shown class, I suggest you take their lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 This is why you shouldn't be on our forum - fuck off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanchesterCity Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 I think you mean reckless....though as Suarez wasn't remotely damaged I suppose it could be described as wreckless as well (at a stretch). I do indeed @ reckless!! As for the tackle - It would have to be a miraculous stretch to see it as reckless. Looked a solid tackle, got the ball, couldn't see any intent... you'd be pushing it to justify a yellow. Of course the statement was in response to what the laws say. There are 7 formal reasons for a red card, and 'serious foul play' is the only one that remotely covers the tackle (since all the others are bad language, second yellow, swearing etc etc) I must admit, when I watched it, it just looked like "ouch! he went in hard there"... but seeing the replay, it wasn't even hard. All I can possibly think is that the ref saw a quick tackle that 'looked' a certain way. Suarez over egged it BIG time and the ref was way too keen to assert authority. He went straight for red without giving it a second thought even for his own sake... To me, that was crap refereeing. Two of those factors would be right down to his own ego, and one of them down to 'what you see, isn't always what actually happened" Ruined a great game. (It was actually still a decent game after, but totally tainted and biased thereafter which is crap for everybody). Based on the entire game, you can't help but feel Everton could well have won it with 11 men. We'll never know now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanchesterCity Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 He didn't read. He took a comment about the 'reasons a referee can send off' and assumed it was justification for Rodwell. Context is everything. I've donated the coin he tossed to the benevolent fund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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