Newty82 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) Nobody says today though do they? These things take time to finalise I guess, look at Sandro Ramirez he's "signed" 10 times already ? I hope we haven't paid 10 times for him! Edited June 28, 2017 by Newty82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) http://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/06/29/arsenal-could-steal-a-march-on-rivals-by-tempting-everton-with-p/ Lucas Perez, any good.? Edited June 29, 2017 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 http://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/06/29/arsenal-could-steal-a-march-on-rivals-by-tempting-everton-with-p/Swap him for Giroud and the Ox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 http://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/06/29/arsenal-could-steal-a-march-on-rivals-by-tempting-everton-with-p/ Lucas Perez, any good.? No. We were already linked and dodged the bullet, no reason to go back. http://www.toffeetalk.com/index.php?/topic/28147-lucas-perez-martinez/?hl=perez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 http://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/06/29/arsenal-could-steal-a-march-on-rivals-by-tempting-everton-with-p/ Lucas Perez, any good.? Son is an Arsenal fan.... I fking know.... so saw him several times last season. Looked a very good player whenever he had a chance and knows where the goals are. Couldn't understand why he did t play more for them. My son was always baffled by it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Lots of arseal fans were bewildered as to why he never got more match time. Apparently he looks very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Barkley for Giroud and Perez please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 I'm starting to think he's going nowhere...at least not this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 I'm starting to think he's going nowhere...at least not this season. If he's wanting to sit and run his contract down then I wonder if he'll actually get the abuse he deserves. If that is the situation I wouldn't even let him play for the U23s, he can have a season of doing absolutely fuck all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Difference in class. Lukaku stated from the off he wants champions league, and put in enough to justify his move. Whereas Barkley like Stones has been a girl pants, kept quiet whilst he tries to force a move that his performances don't deserve. His return of 5 goals playing a free role is pitiful and the main factor in us not making the champions league. Give me honesty over a shit house all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) If he's wanting to sit and run his contract down then I wonder if he'll actually get the abuse he deserves. If that is the situation I wouldn't even let him play for the U23s, he can have a season of doing absolutely fuck all. Like the last two years. Edited July 9, 2017 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 He can still be a useful player for us. But maybe both he and our fans need to readjust our expectations. We have to accept that he maybe isn't going to be as good as we want him to be. And he needs to knuckle down and show that he can develop further. He's not quite 'deadwood'. But like any player, if he doesn't want to be here...feel free to leave asap. If anyone wants you. If they don't, or at least if a club that doesn't want you from the level you expect, then have a reality check. Just seems a bit strange that nothing has been said and he's still been quite active in our promo material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 This is not going to be decided until the end of the transfer window. If Spurs or Utd come in with a late bid. I still think he will sign a new deal, and be a quality player for us. Maybe that's just blind optimism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Did I just read that? Rather have a twat like Lukaku because he is honest and admits freely that he would live to play for anyone other than us.... than a player like Ross who hasn't lived up to expectations due to not being good enough and has kept his mouth shut? What happened to us? When did we become so delusional? So sad. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 No room for him now that Klaasen, Siggurdson, and Rooney are here. He's on his way out, otherwise he would have signed by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 No room for him now that Klaasen, Siggurdson, and Rooney are here. He's on his way out, otherwise he would have signed by now. Think your right there. Can't see where the peices all go together. Sigurdson is a replacement for Barkley. I'm indifferent to him to be honest. Don't see him as an upgrade, but hope to be proved wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Did I just read that? Rather have a twat like Lukaku because he is honest and admits freely that he would live to play for anyone other than us.... than a player like Ross who hasn't lived up to expectations due to not being good enough and has kept his mouth shut? What happened to us? When did we become so delusional? So sad. Ross cant win tho, if he talks then he pisses of fans, if he keeps quiet then he gets slated. I admit I rate Ross, and he had a terrible end to 2016, but was one of the most creative players in the second half of the season. The truth is we don't know whats going on. No room for him now that Klaasen, Siggurdson, and Rooney are here. He's on his way out, otherwise he would have signed by now. We need a big squad, but I agree that with those three his place is under threat. Although Rooney is a short term signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Bill's right he has lost his place at this club, through his own choices. Personally I don't think we will miss him with what we have brought in, it's just sad to see it ending this way, no one has come in for him because the 50M price tag we put on him has put them off, we need to be realistic with the valuation so we at least get a decent return for him. I think he's burnt his bridges with Koeman, and he and his team know that, and are quite happy to let the clock tick and walk away on a free. So unless Koeman leaves in the near future I think he's played his last game for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 I don't see Klassen or Gylfi threatening Ross's place. They both play in the middle three, Koeman has mostly played Ross in the front three. Sandro and Rooney are the threat to Ross. There may still be issues over his contract, but he turned up for training unlike Rom. I really don't see him being the kind of lad to be running down his contract to leave for free. Matt and Chach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 No room for him now that Klaasen, Siggurdson, and Rooney are here. He's on his way out, otherwise he would have signed by now. If there's one person more than any other that Rooney can influence and help to mature, it's Ross Barkley. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 If there's one person more than any other that Rooney can influence and help to mature, it's Ross Barkley. Yep. Rooney could be great for Barkley. That alone might be worth every penny we pay Rooney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 I don't see Klassen or Gylfi threatening Ross's place. They both play in the middle three, Koeman has mostly played Ross in the front three. Sandro and Rooney are the threat to Ross. There may still be issues over his contract, but he turned up for training unlike Rom. I really don't see him being the kind of lad to be running down his contract to leave for free. This for me too. It's all gone a bit strange but Rooney might help him turn the tide. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Even if he signs a new contract now he'll be on the bench, you don't upset Koeman and get away with it. Only way Barkley stands a chance is if he gets on his knees and apologizes profusely, even then I don't think he'll play ahead of any of those three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Even if he signs a new contract now he'll be on the bench, you don't upset Koeman and get away with it. Only way Barkley stands a chance is if he gets on his knees and apologizes profusely, even then I don't think he'll play ahead of any of those three. Koeman is pragmatic, if Barkley signs and plays well when he is in he will keep his place. With the extra fixtures of Europa all the squad will get a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Did I miss something? Didn't realise they had a fall out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Told him to sign before the season ended or he would be sold. I don't see Koeman being the sort of man to fook with, he's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Even if he signs a new contract now he'll be on the bench, you don't upset Koeman and get away with it. Only way Barkley stands a chance is if he gets on his knees and apologizes profusely, even then I don't think he'll play ahead of any of those three. Was this the same Koeman who had Barkley in his starting XI nine times out of ten last season? We aren't half a fickle lot. If Mirallas had played as consistently well as Barkley did second half of last season, you'd all be queuing up to suck him off. What has he got to apologise for? Is he not allowed to negotiate on the terms of a new contract? Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Maybe some of the supposed upset comes from his chosen path in his private life? Remember he got sparked while in a shitty dingy club/bar for hitting on someone's woman...and seems to have a rep in Liverpool for doing this and being a cock. It's not always about what's on the pitch, but sometimes what goes on off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Maybe some of the supposed upset comes from his chosen path in his private life? Remember he got sparked while in a shitty dingy club/bar for hitting on someone's woman...and seems to have a rep in Liverpool for doing this and being a cock. It's not always about what's on the pitch, but sometimes what goes on off it. This is bothersome to me. As someone who avoids the British tabloid rumors, it always seemed like Barkley was ahead of the crowd in terms of maturity and lifestyle. Is this really his reputation over there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Was this the same Koeman who had Barkley in his starting XI nine times out of ten last season? We aren't half a fickle lot. If Mirallas had played as consistently well as Barkley did second half of last season, you'd all be queuing up to suck him off. What has he got to apologise for? Is he not allowed to negotiate on the terms of a new contract? Nogs, he was told to sign the contract before the season ended or be sold, I don't think for one minute Koeman is going to say, oh I'm sorry Ross I was only kidding. He's away as soon as somebody offers £25m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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