Finn balor Posted December 28, 2019 Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 He’s my bug bear. He should be running games. He annoys me not going to lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 hours ago, c1982 said: I think he’s played really well in the deeper role under Ancelotti. Covered the most ground too being back there, I think for both game. I’m glad because I’ve always liked him, and whilst he had had a dip in form, it’s clear to see it’s tactics rather than application or ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 He’s able to play those nice through balls more when he’s deeper. It has helped. He’s assisted or hockey assisted a goal already. He was too far forward to create before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: He’s able to play those nice through balls more when he’s deeper. It has helped. He’s assisted or hockey assisted a goal already. He was too far forward to create before. If we're looking for someone to play a killer through ball Iwobi has to be that person we rely on, Sigurdsson offers very little when he's not scoring. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Aidan said: If we're looking for someone to play a killer through ball Iwobi has to be that person we rely on, Sigurdsson offers very little when he's not scoring. This is where Sigurdsson doesn’t get the respect he deserves. His closing down, ground covered and interceptions are a massive part of his game add to that his crossing from deep and set pieces then he offers loads. I like Iwobi but only as a number 10 - where I prefer him to Gylfi but in a deeper role, Iwobi doesn’t have the skills I’ve mentioned here. Bailey, chicagoblue, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 39 minutes ago, c1982 said: This is where Sigurdsson doesn’t get the respect he deserves. His closing down, ground covered and interceptions are a massive part of his game add to that his crossing from deep and set pieces then he offers loads. I like Iwobi but only as a number 10 - where I prefer him to Gylfi but in a deeper role, Iwobi doesn’t have the skills I’ve mentioned here. He had a good work rate and never stopped running under Silva but him not being very good at closing played a big part in the system not working. He's just illsuited to it as Sigurdssen is reactive and slow at covering the short yards. If he read the play better he'd be able to block the pass and not have to chase people's tails as much. Agree he's a good crosser though. Why I was saying we should use him on the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 I thought he was sublime for us when we dominated for the first 15-20mins. He was really pulling the strings and making us tick. Once Newcastle woke up and came into the game it was more his work rate that was evident. But a very good all round game from him yesterday. Matt and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 I love Gylfi, he’s as much a toffee as anyone on here but since he’s been at the club he’s never been played in a position that really suited him and now I think he’s been overtaken by events. There are better players than him in every attacking position and although he’s a trier he’s just not cut out as a defensive or deeper midfielder which is where he’s played recently. What’s worse is that his dead ball play - which is supposed to be his strength - has evaporated. I’m sick of all those limp floated free kicks and corners. Unless Ancelotti can find a role to wring out his talents and restore his confidence his time is going to be limited. A shame because I love the bloke and at his best, which we’ve never seen here, he’s the type of player who you could build a side round and dominate games. Trust Everton to buy him and then try to slot him in here or there. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 11 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I thought he was sublime for us when we dominated for the first 15-20mins. He was really pulling the strings and making us tick. Once Newcastle woke up and came into the game it was more his work rate that was evident. But a very good all round game from him yesterday. I agree when we played football on the deck we dominated, and Siggy played really well. When we let Newcastle turn the game into kick and rush he was out of his comfort zone and couldnt help us wrestle control back. That's the dilemma he is great at certain elements of many roles but has weakness that make him flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Better deeper as he “has to” work hard. In the 10 role he far too often goes missing, anonymous. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 I agree, he’s too slow to affect games in the final third. He’s better in a deeper role where he can dictate the play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 11 hours ago, Finn balor said: I agree, he’s too slow to affect games in the final third. He’s better in a deeper role where he can dictate the play Ever since he arrived at Eerton when he was put in a deeper role fans moaned about it saying his natural positon was behidn the striker. I dont think he's good enough in any position in the squad and needs replacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 He is not good enough to wear the shirt, he won’t be playing for us next season there is not a role in the team where he shines, we need to anyone of our injured MFs back to get him out the team or better still 2 to get him out the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Palfy said: He is not good enough to wear the shirt, he won’t be playing for us next season there is not a role in the team where he shines, we need to anyone of our injured MFs back to get him out the team or better still 2 to get him out the squad. I'd replace him before any other player tbh. His role in the team is that important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmytheJimster Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Need to take him off corners, I've lost count the number of times he's either hit the first man or put a high looping ball in. plaidharper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 He done. Simply put. Put a good set piece in but if we wanted someone to do fuck all in the centre circle and a whip a dead ball in or 2 each game I’m sure Charlie Adam would be glad to do it for a 10th of what this guy is on. How anyone can remotely think he’s an option still is beyond me. There’s this unbelievable myth that follows Gylfi that he is this technical maestro - commentators and fans of other teams seem to always say it, that he can pick a pass or unlock a defence. Open play he’s technically wank, under hit passes and loose touches. He’s so slow he has to use everyone ounce of skill just to retain the ball. No idea what club would be mad enough to offer money to us for him let alone offer the 6 figure weekly salary I’m sure he thinks he’s worth. Nice guy I’m sure but needs to be shown the door. Shukes, MikeO and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Btay said: He done. Simply put. Put a good set piece in but if we wanted someone to do fuck all in the centre circle and a whip a dead ball in or 2 each game I’m sure Charlie Adam would be glad to do it for a 10th of what this guy is on. How anyone can remotely think he’s an option still is beyond me. There’s this unbelievable myth that follows Gylfi that he is this technical maestro - commentators and fans of other teams seem to always say it, that he can pick a pass or unlock a defence. Open play he’s technically wank, under hit passes and loose touches. He’s so slow he has to use everyone ounce of skill just to retain the ball. No idea what club would be mad enough to offer money to us for him let alone offer the 6 figure weekly salary I’m sure he thinks he’s worth. Nice guy I’m sure but needs to be shown the door. There's one that needs to go before him - Schneiderlein. Fuckin disgrace. Put it this is way - we'll get rid of Gylfi before Schneiderlein simply because clubs will want to take Gylfi. MikeO, London Blue and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 He's should only start on the bench from now on. Done with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 On 29/12/2019 at 08:26, c1982 said: This is where Sigurdsson doesn’t get the respect he deserves. His closing down, ground covered and interceptions are a massive part of his game add to that his crossing from deep and set pieces then he offers loads. I like Iwobi but only as a number 10 - where I prefer him to Gylfi but in a deeper role, Iwobi doesn’t have the skills I’ve mentioned here. He’s been woeful since I posted this. He, like so many of our players, is mentally weak. A player of his ability should have played at the very top. Look at him for Swansea and Iceland - incredible player at times when he single handedly took them beyond reasonable expectations but completely different player at Spurs and now looking the same at us - despite the odd decent performance. I put this down to mentality in some parts. Henderson at that lot is a good example - limited footballer but his drive and determination makes him an important part of winning teams. I don’t see this in many of our ‘nice guys’. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 I've defended him in the past, but even I know it's time for Sigurdsson to go. He's a creative player who appears to create nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 It’s time for him to go it’s like flogging a dead horse, there’s nothing there anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 He looks Like an ex player in a charity match/testimonial..... doesn't throw in a tackle, jogs around and hopes to get loads of time on the ball to showcase his technical delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 His “best before date” seems to have come and gone very quickly, hasn’t done a thing of note this season apart from a good goal against West Ham, and we have been relying on him to run our midfield, hasn’t happened and doesn’t look like it ever will again, time to sell or use as sub for last few minutes if we’re winning if we can’t offload him in the window. On a side note, I don’t really understand how any professional footballer can’t put in a good ball from a free kick or corner, the ball is static and there’s no one pressing them, all pro golfers and most low handicappers can hit a target zone time after time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 I've always though he's a big heavy lad, not fat just big. Sadly I think this impact his athleticism and longevity in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 I honestly don't know why anyone is surprised by yesterday's cowardly display, it's Gylfi the majority of the time. He doesn't create, he's slow as shit, hides, gets the runaround from people on zimmerframes. He should have been able to run that game yesterday against a bunch of raw kids, and been able to put his stamp on things. Instead he hid, looked like a donkey whenever he actually got himself on the ball, and was embarrassed when they had the ball. His performance was summed up by getting subbed for a defensive midfielder who is also very fucking shit. I'm glad he played like that though because now Ancelotti will have his number and even if we can't get rid of the useless shitehawk he hopefully won't be picked. Palfy and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 . markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 no surprise there. if we could somehow get 20m for him that would be something. i think 15m might be more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: no surprise there. if we could somehow get 20m for him that would be something. i think 15m might be more likely. At this point I’d take 1m just to open up his wages to his replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Zoo 2.0 said: . A nice boost of £5m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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