Zoo Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Which would be great if you could play with 9 out fielders and 2 goalkeepers. Sarcasm font needed? Peter H 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 No way in the world that goal was his fault. If he could have stopped the shot, he would have reacted to it (because he has excellent reactions) but no keeper would have got to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 No way in the world that goal was his fault. If he could have stopped the shot, he would have reacted to it (because he has excellent reactions) but no keeper would have got to that. Zoo would have . marcopaulo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 No way in the world that goal was his fault. If he could have stopped the shot, he would have reacted to it (because he has excellent reactions) but no keeper would have got to that. Reacted? The shot was from 20 yards out so it's hardly 'reaction' stuff, the shot was an easy shot to save had he been positioned properly. As it happened he didn't because once again he fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Reacted? The shot was from 20 yards out so it's hardly 'reaction' stuff, the shot was an easy shot to save had he been positioned properly. As it happened he didn't because once again he fucked up. But he was in the correct position. If the shot had not been deflected he probably would have saved it. If he were to position himself in order to save a possible deflection he would: A - be amazing B - be burnt as a witch If he had been anywhere else and the shot wasnt deflected he would probably have let the shot past him and that would have been his fault. Ive looked at the goal about 20 times today and my conclusion is that he could do nothing about it. His weight was on his left side and he had no way of getting the power shifted to his right foot in order to get back and save it. But you may be trained differently and im not a goalie so you might be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 It's a bit like saying a tennis player should be ready to return every shot at the back of the court while at the same time being in position if the ball hits the net cord and dies. You're in a minority of one I think Zoo . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Reacted? The shot was from 20 yards out so it's hardly 'reaction' stuff, the shot was an easy shot to save had he been positioned properly. As it happened he didn't because once again he fucked up. Yes reacted... When you perceive the flight of the ball going one way, position yourself appropriately and start transfering your weight etc and then it goes in a different direction than you had predicted its very hard for an keeper to react. You will actually find that keepers dont react to the ball that much, they just predict where the ball will end up judged on the angles of the shot, side of the foot etc etc, especially at close range. Thats why the hardest shot for a keeper to save is the one where the striker scuffs the crap out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Thats why the hardest shot for a keeper to save is the one where the striker scuffs the crap out of it. Like Rooneys two against City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Howard was in the correct position in the case of a through ball - if he's stuck on his line the striker nips in and gets on the end of a through ball. If that shot doesn't take a deflection then Howard saves it, only a wonder-strike or a deflection beats Howard from that distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Howard was in the correct position in the case of a through ball - if he's stuck on his line the striker nips in and gets on the end of a through ball. If that shot doesn't take a deflection then Howard saves it, only a wonder-strike or a deflection beats Howard from that distance. don't totally agree with that..seen him beaten by some easy shots from distance before..just think on this occasion he wasn't at fault imagine if the through ball had been played and he was positioned on the line in case of a 1/100 deflection..the striker is in and they score..everyone blasts him for not stoppin the pass..feel bad for keepers sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 don't totally agree with that..seen him beaten by some easy shots from distance before..just think on this occasion he wasn't at fault Generally speaking though he's very reliable and I bet there are very few examples of him being at fault from that distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 If we lose Howard, I want Jack Butland. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 If we lose Howard, I want Jack Butland. That is all. This.... 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 If we lose Howard, I want Jack Butland. That is all. There are a few guys I like. Butland, ter Stegen, John Ruddy are three who stand out to me as realistic transfers. ter Stegen might be a bit of a reach, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 .....John Ruddy... That would hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) That would hurt. Why's that? EDIT: Nevermind, just saw that he used to be Everton property. Why'd we let him go? Edited December 13, 2012 by thoward18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Why'd we let him go? Good question. Late developer maybe....Paul Lambert had apparently looked at him a couple of times before he bought him but been unimpressed. Then he had a decent season on loan at Motherwell (his eighth loan club) and Norwich needed a keeper so they took a punt. Don't think anyone could have seen how far he was going to progress. But a real shame we lost him.....he'd be an ideal partner for Tim I think. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 he was another of the goalkeeper graveyard, Simmo had a good spell at stoke after he left us which lead to an England call up too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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