pax Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Why dont you practice what you preach and stop making things up? What did i make up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Xavi, Iniesta, messi etc are all forward thinking footballers. How can any person on here compare them with Felli? Def mid is his forte, but he adds so much more. Sure enough Essien is a cracking midfielder but Felli is only going to get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 O wow that is all I can say to anybody who thinks Fellaini is anywhere as near as good as Essien is haha. It shocks me some peoples opinions on here. Don't get me wrong Fellaini is a good tidy player but that where it ends.. a complete player the boy is not I would love him to be the player that he is getting portrayed to be on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 He is not as good as Essien yet but time is on his side. I think he will go on to be a wonderfull player, whether or not that will be with us is anyones guess. But I for one hopes he stays to help drive us on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 He is not as good as Essien yet but time is on his side. I think he will go on to be a wonderfull player, whether or not that will be with us is anyones guess. But I for one hopes he stays to help drive us on. Ive heard a rumour Essien may miss the whole of next season, so id say Fellis gonna be more effective than him for at least 1 season anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAJUSTIN Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Why not sell Fellaini we can’t keep him anyway. Why don't we try Scott Parker for 2 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Essien is fantastic, his first season at Chelsea he was prob the best midfielder in the prem, but I think after the injuries he's had he doesn't seem as dynamic anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Why not sell Fellaini we can’t keep him anyway. Why don't we try Scott Parker for 2 years? Fellaini will get better, Parker will decline. Why can't we keep him? He's on a contract, he will likely replace yaya toure at city when he's had his two years. Cost? £40m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Ive heard a rumour Essien may miss the whole of next season.... Six months... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14087070.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) Next summer will be the time to sell Felli if he doesn't sign up - looking at the fees Young and Kevin Gameiro have gone for in their final year suggests teams will still pay-up with 12months left. Hopefully in this 12months we can plan an assault on the top4 and Felli signs up for 6years ala Modric!!! Edited July 11, 2011 by c1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Why not sell Fellaini we can’t keep him anyway. Why don't we try Scott Parker for 2 years? Justin, there is every chance we can hold on to Fellaini, it's all down to him really, if he wants to go then yes get rid, but I don't think that's the case at the moment. He can be the star performer at Everton, someone to build the team around and maybe surprise a few people....or he can become just another greedy bastard fighting for his place at Man city, United or Chelsea. Scott Parker is a good player off the back of an excellent season, he could do a good job for us, can we afford his wages? Welcome to the forum Justin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Scott Parker is a good player off the back of an excellent season, he could do a good job for us, can we afford his wages? Parker had his chance... he chose Newcastle!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 I would say Fellini is the only curent player we have who has the potential to play and be a success in any team, as much as Baines is great for us, could he make it in a top European team, I doubt it, I think many of our players have reached they level at everton, let's face facts we r never gonna reach the consistent levels of man u, Chelsea or arsenal, not without investment, but Fellini could easily fit into any of those teams, I would love to see him stay but realistically if a high enough bid came in then we do the same as we did with Rooney and look how that changed us into a top six(ish) team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 we don't have any money, the only option I see is to sell baines Rodwell and maybe Fellini, could potentially get 60+ million and with Moyes's eye for players we could get at least 6 decent players and challenge regularly for 4th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Why not sell Fellaini we can’t keep him anyway. Why don't we try Scott Parker for 2 years? So we sell Fellaini and pay around £10million for Scott Parker for two years, who would then have pretty much zero sell on value. So we'd then have a big gaping hole in the middle of the park to fill with no money. For a club in the position that we are it makes absolutely no sense signing players of Parker's age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 If the club was for sale for say £60m, we would surely be an attractive proposition to an investor who could wipe off our debt, facilitate some form of ground development/move and buy finch farm. With such a takeover, the perennial talk of selling one of our best players to buy two and pay off some debt will be a thing of the past. The likes of fellaini, rodwell, baines, jags need to stay. We have 5 players who within 3 years will be looking at hanging their boots up. What are we going to do then? Be interesting to know how we are up for sale. Kenwright said he isn't interested in diluting His shares. Given the example set by jack Hayward at wolves, he can stop proclaiming to be the true blue he always has done. He shouldn't be out of pocket but he certainly should not expect much on his £20m for 68% of the club. Given the Increase in debt and loss of assets in his tenure. Anyhow, sort that out and we shouldn't have to sell our best players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Haf - There's an English guy who was CEO of two US 'franchises'. He wrote to people after seeking permission from Bill Kenwright with a view to selling. The price he gave potential investors was £75m-100m for 75% of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 (edited) But before we had Fellini rodwell and jags we were doing good, 4th place and all that, and you must agree Moyes is good at spotting young cheap talent? Who says he won't get and develop more young players Edited July 12, 2011 by mogsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Be interesting to know how we are up for sale. Kenwright said he isn't interested in diluting His shares. He said that in 2005 I believe, his point being that investment would reduce the level of his shares but he wasn't bothered by that. Bill has said on many occasions that we're up for sale to the right people....you can choose to believe him or you can choose not to but don't pretend he hasn't said it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Haf - There's an English guy who was CEO of two US 'franchises'. He wrote to people after seeking permission from Bill Kenwright with a view to selling. The price he gave potential investors was £75m-100m for 75% of the club. They probably had the same look of disbelief as I did when I was charged €6.50 for a pint of heineken at the grasshopper in Amsterdam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 But before we had Fellini rodwell and jags we were doing good, 4th place and all that, and you must agree Moyes is good at spotting young cheap talent? Who says he won't get and develop more young players Yes he is but it's getting harder and harder for what is now seen as cheap (you can be talking £5million for totally unproven players nowadays), and for us that's not cheap at all. For every Coleman there's a Scott Spencer or a Lukas Lutkiewicz. You can't progress with that sort of model. Christ, you'd struggle to stand still when your competitors are all making strides to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Yes he is but it's getting harder and harder for what is now seen as cheap (you can be talking £5million for totally unproven players nowadays), and for us that's not cheap at all. For every Coleman there's a Scott Spencer or a Lukas Lutkiewicz. You can't progress with that sort of model. Christ, you'd struggle to stand still when your competitors are all making strides to improve. exactly, to keep churning out bargin signings, we would need a scout in every country in the world, and thats never going to happen, and someone would have to co-ordinate what would essentially be a huge operation, Moyes has'nt got the time to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pax Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 If the club was for sale for say £60m, we would surely be an attractive proposition to an investor who could wipe off our debt, facilitate some form of ground development/move and buy finch farm. With such a takeover, the perennial talk of selling one of our best players to buy two and pay off some debt will be a thing of the past. The likes of fellaini, rodwell, baines, jags need to stay. We have 5 players who within 3 years will be looking at hanging their boots up. What are we going to do then? Be interesting to know how we are up for sale. Kenwright said he isn't interested in diluting His shares. Given the example set by jack Hayward at wolves, he can stop proclaiming to be the true blue he always has done. He shouldn't be out of pocket but he certainly should not expect much on his £20m for 68% of the club. Given the Increase in debt and loss of assets in his tenure. Anyhow, sort that out and we shouldn't have to sell our best players... In what possible way is Everton an attractive proposition to an investor? An investor has to 1) Buy the club, Wipe out debts, c) Provide money for players, d) provide money for wages, e) Compete with clubs around us with much larger budgets, f) Create new revenue streams and g) Re-develop Goodison Park or build a new stadium. What possible way is there for Everton to generate the sort of income needed per year to pay that investor back and then provide him with a return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pax Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Haf - There's an English guy who was CEO of two US 'franchises'. He wrote to people after seeking permission from Bill Kenwright with a view to selling. The price he gave potential investors was £75m-100m for 75% of the club. How many people get a slice out of that £75 - £100 million? The English guy won't be brokering this for free and i'm guessing will get a price from Kenwright, anything he sells over that price will reward his efforts handsomely. This is a profit game for anyone brokering a deal to sell anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Woods, Earl and Kenwright - their respective brokers and Bernie Mullin for bringing them to the table. Fellaini linked with a £19-24m move to Real Madrid: http://www.rtl.be/sport/football/footballetranger/222060/fellaini-prochaine-recrue-du-real-madrid-pour-27m- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Woods, Earl and Kenwright - their respective brokers and Bernie Mullin for bringing them to the table. Fellaini linked with a £19-24m move to Real Madrid: http://www.rtl.be/sport/football/footballetranger/222060/fellaini-prochaine-recrue-du-real-madrid-pour-27m- just seen this on facebook, we would be stupid not accept the way things are going at the moment, as much as it pains me to say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Not enough imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Not enough imo. don't see we have any choice if its a serious bid, and imo its a decent offer, Fellani is far from the finished article that people keep saying he is, he has the potential to be a truely world class player, but not at the moment he aint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Woods, Earl and Kenwright - their respective brokers and Bernie Mullin for bringing them to the table. Fellaini linked with a £19-24m move to Real Madrid: http://www.rtl.be/sp...adrid-pour-27m- didnt realise you could sell parts of a player nowadays. that might get his 2 arms and a leg. If Modric is going for 30, Felli is at least that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xavier Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 didnt realise you could sell parts of a player nowadays. that might get his 2 arms and a leg. If Modric is going for 30, Felli is at least that... How much is his hair worth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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