Romey 1878 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 agree about davies being a good player but why don't you think he's be a realistic option? you don't think he'd choose to play here over swansea? whoever we sign if baines goes is gonna be guaranteed 1st team football..are not a better option than swansea? Swansea will be reluctant to sell and so would probably ask for more than we'd be willing to pay, are in a better financial position than us, again meaning they'd ask for a high fee, and will be in and around us in the league (IMO) so it would just a sideways step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 i get what you mean but i'm not sure i could ever consider swansea to everton a sideways step...maybe heart ruling head but i couldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I think anything between £15 - £20 mill is a fair price. I think Davies is a very good player but would cost a lot of dough. Bertrand I like, something to prove and would cost probably about £6 mill. Weren't we linked with a left back from the Spanish league? Say we got £18 for Bainsey £6 mill on indi as long term replacement for dystin, Bertrand or another £6 mill and the rest for ince or Hughes at derby. Happy days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I think anything between £15 - £20 mill is a fair price. I think Davies is a very good player but would cost a lot of dough. Bertrand I like, something to prove and would cost probably about £6 mill. Weren't we linked with a left back from the Spanish league? Say we got £18 for Bainsey £6 mill on indi as long term replacement for dystin, Bertrand or another £6 mill and the rest for ince or Hughes at derby. Happy days If you're talking about Siqueira, he's joined Benfica on deadline day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I think anything between £15 - £20 mill is a fair price. I think Davies is a very good player but would cost a lot of dough. Bertrand I like, something to prove and would cost probably about £6 mill. Weren't we linked with a left back from the Spanish league? Say we got £18 for Bainsey £6 mill on indi as long term replacement for dystin, Bertrand or another £6 mill and the rest for ince or Hughes at derby. Happy days If the papers are to be believed Hughes is going to the shite for £10m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Sounds like Garbutt is doing well at Colchester - maybe too early (with the injury set back he had) but he seems to be a decent player, how good? only one way to find out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Sounds like Garbutt is doing well at Colchester - maybe too early (with the injury set back he had) but he seems to be a decent player, how good? only one way to find out! If he's good enough then it looks as though Martinez will be willing to give him a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 If he's good enough then it looks as though Martinez will be willing to give him a shot. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/439465/David-Moyes-to-sign-15m-Leighton-Baines-to-Manchester-United-in-January-transfer Could we swap Baines for Kagawa and get Zaha on loan? Then use the unused funds from the summer window to get a strong but lesser known LB from Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Could we swap Baines for Kagawa and get Zaha on loan? Then use the unused funds from the summer window to get a strong but lesser known LB from Europe. I would rather have the money Romey 1878 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Ill just throw out a few continental players that I think would be able to replace Baines. Christian Fuchs Marcell Jansen Alex Sandro Marcel Schmelzer Stefan Radu Lucas Digne (looks exciting but might not be able to replace Baines right now) Luca Antonelli (would be my no 1 choice) Edited October 28, 2013 by Peter H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Danny Rose and Ben Davies would be my first choices and I must say I think Bertrand will develop to be a good player but obviously there are a few ??? over his defensive qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nikica Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Don't want him to go to Man United, as he's better than Evra both defensively and offensively these days, and their plays revolves around crossing into the box - their style is to use overlapping full-backs who are in fact quite often more of a threat than their wingers (mainly due to how shite Valencia, Young and Nani have been for ages). Baines is a fantastic crosser of the ball and in theory it would make their game plan more effective. Then there's the fact that I'm not sure who Martinez plans to replace him with for youse. I think some things point to this transfer happening - his contract situation, the aforementioned style of play at Man U, Moyes being a big fan of his former player, and Evra leaving at the end of the season while Moyes doesn't seem to rate Fabio (and obviously Buttner is shite). They came very close to pulling off Coentrao on loan in September so Moyes is obviously looking for a very attacking and incisive full-back for some of the above reasons. If you were to receive a good offer, perhaps you should take it. You could strengthen with that cash, and given Baines's age and contract situation £15m-£20m would be a nice offer. On the other hand, Baines is so integral to your play that it may damage your fluency and style, and as said you'd need a replacement (apologies if you have a promising LB in the youth system, obviously you guys are more informed in that respect than I am). You've already robbed them for Fellaini (who I do quite like as a player, but Man U vastly overpaid) but for me Baines would become integral to their style and possibly be tricky to replace for you, so it's a tough decision. I guess that's why Martinez and the staff at Everton are paid to make it and we aren't Luke Shaw would be a great replacement but I doubt Soton would sell as they seem financially solvent and are a very good PL team themselves. He'd also probably cost more than you'd sell Baines for due to age, potential, and the fact that lots of top clubs seem to be sniffing around him so there's more chance of a bidding war than with Baines, who seems mostly linked with the Mancs. Some good shouts from the continent by Peter H above, and I agree with most that Davies looks class and Bertrand isn't that special. Edited October 28, 2013 by Nikica Peter H 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/england-international-bullying-his-way-to-manchester-united-on-ch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/england-international-bullying-his-way-to-manchester-united-on-ch thats one of the worst articles Ive ever read... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Didn't catch the whole game last night but from what I did I thought Cresswell (Ipswich left back) looks a real prospect. We've been linked in the past so I will be keeping a closer eye on how he gets on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/nov/01/roberto-martinez-everton-leighton-baines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/greg-okeeffe-everton-fc-must-6264973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/nov/01/roberto-martinez-everton-leighton-baines Same type of stort on skysports http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11671/9003728/everton-boss-roberto-martinez-wont-sell-leighton-baines-in-january-transfer-window I think they are using media to get Man Utd to raise the offer. "We dont have to sell" is often followed by "ok, we sold. The offer was too good to pass on" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Same type of stort on skysports http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11671/9003728/everton-boss-roberto-martinez-wont-sell-leighton-baines-in-january-transfer-window I think they are using media to get Man Utd to raise the offer. "We dont have to sell" is often followed by "ok, we sold. The offer was too good to pass on" Got to disagree, I honestly believe the club will try and do everything in its powers to keep him, this will all boil down to what the player wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Same type of stort on skysports http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11671/9003728/everton-boss-roberto-martinez-wont-sell-leighton-baines-in-january-transfer-window I think they are using media to get Man Utd to raise the offer. "We dont have to sell" is often followed by "ok, we sold. The offer was too good to pass on" Got to disagree, I honestly believe the club will try and do everything in its powers to keep him, this will all boil down to what the player wants Maybe it's both. We know what the player wants (to go?) and because of that we're using the media to get United to raise their offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Its ok to disagree, makes for a better discussion. But your wrong (kidding) Romey 1878 is probably close to the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 http://www.clubcall.com/manchester-united/baines-swap-deal-mooted-1658974.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 http://www.clubcall.com/manchester-united/baines-swap-deal-mooted-1658974.html Can't see that being a likely bid. I don't want Baines to go but part of me is resigned to losing him so if he was going anyway I'd be delighted with this deal, however unlikely it may be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 http://www.clubcall.com/manchester-united/baines-swap-deal-mooted-1658974.html If Baines is set on leaving I think I would take that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 If Baines is set on leaving I think I would take that 7 mil plus Zaha? Yep thats a yes from me to. (If Baines wants the move) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/greg-okeeffe-everton-fc-must-6264973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/greg-okeeffe-everton-fc-must-6264973 Lol Only a day behind Romey ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-wont-do-tottenham-transfer-2666081 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 7 mil plus zaha? i would take that. we still have fellaini money to spend on a left back and the 7 mil we could get a young centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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