Avinalaff Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 what you mean suddenly? maybe just haven't paid attention to other people's opinions of him..i've thought he's been our best for a long time Well, I did stop posting for quite a long period, so probably have an excuse for not paying attention Let's see how they all do this season. I think that's the biggest importance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I think most Blues will agree that Johnny and Distin is our strongest pairing and that Johnny was our strongest defensive player last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I think we can have Heits play on Saturday and give Distin a chance to rest his injury. We have three good defenders there in Heits Jags and Distin, swap them around and give them all game time. That way we wont be short when one gets hurt. (Like Distin is now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I think we can have Heits play on Saturday and give Distin a chance to rest his injury. We have three good defenders there in Heits Jags and Distin, swap them around and give them all game time. That way we wont be short when one gets hurt. (Like Distin is now) You need continuity between your CB's though, it's not a partnership you should rotate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 We have three good defenders there in Heits Jags and Distin, swap them around and give them all game time. That way we wont be short when one gets hurt. (Like Distin is now) This would be the best case scenario for me but can we keep them all happy is another question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 You need continuity between your CB's though, it's not a partnership you should rotate. In the most part I agree but we've had our defensive unit for a long time now (including gk and full backs) so I think we could probably put any 2 from 3 in. Not many clubs could do that but I think we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 In the most part I agree but we've had our defensive unit for a long time now (including gk and full backs) so I think we could probably put any 2 from 3 in. Not many clubs could do that but I think we can. Yes I think so too. In fact I am pretty sure of it. Heits can also play as a defensive mid if required in front of the other two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Yes I think so too. In fact I am pretty sure of it. Heits can also play as a defensive mid if required in front of the other two. I love Johnny but not in mid!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I agree with Av in that I too think Distin's our best defender. He's tall and strong enough to be a dominant force in the air when we sit back and he's fast enough to be able to play high up the pitch. I don't want Heitinga to leave either, but only because that would mean we'd be short in the centre back area. He's tidy in possession, but also our slowest centre back, etc. He's got his positive attributes, but also plenty of negatives, in conclusion, I don't think he's that much better than Distin or Jagielka, if at all. And after the Man U game, both Distin and Jagielka deserve to start against Villa. Also, has Heitinga actually been linked with a move or is all of this just internet speculation? I can't see him getting a game at Spurs tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Yes I think so too. In fact I am pretty sure of it. Heits can also play as a defensive mid if required in front of the other two. no...he can't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 We have a squad of players like all other teams. The players have no right to a starting place every week. It's down to Moyes to utilise his options across the season, and those options are there for the benefit of the club, and not the individual players. All players know this. They are paid handsomely be it for a start or for stand by and employed to serve the club with the best interests of the club their priority. All our defenders are equally important as the next, and we don't want to lose any of them if we can help it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I think we can have Heits play on Saturday and give Distin a chance to rest his injury. We have three good defenders there in Heits Jags and Distin, swap them around and give them all game time. That way we wont be short when one gets hurt. (Like Distin is now) It only takes one game to get injured [Distin], so swapping them around wont stop them from being injured. I prefer the present pairing, like somebody as already said i think Heitinga is a bit too laid back as a centre half, i prefer the blood and guts attitude of Jagielka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 It only takes one game to get injured [Distin], so swapping them around wont stop them from being injured. I prefer the present pairing, like somebody as already said i think Heitinga is a bit too laid back as a centre half, i prefer the blood and guts attitude of Jagielka. I think Johnny has all the blood and guts attitude but he is calm on the ball and a good passer. Johnny is a tiger, not scared to put the boot in at all. He has got all the tackling ability as well as the cool head and passing for me he is the complete defender...or the most complete defender we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 For me, Johnny always seems a bit of a liability on set pieces. He tends to track poorly and lose aerials. Sure, he's made some excellent late tackles and clearances, but I can't help feeling that he puts himself/the team in those dangerous positions sometimes. But this is just my opinion, man. He is, by far, the best cb we have on the ball though. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I didn't miss Heitinga last game. It was a good move to bring him on as a 5th defender when EFC was ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 For me, Johnny always seems a bit of a liability on set pieces. He tends to track poorly and lose aerials. Sure, he's made some excellent late tackles and clearances, but I can't help feeling that he puts himself/the team in those dangerous positions sometimes. But this is just my opinion, man. He is, by far, the best cb we have on the ball though. distin gets to the ball but sometimes seems to have a head with more sides than a dodecahedron..never know which way it's gonna bounce sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 distin gets to the ball but sometimes seems to have a head with more sides than a dodecahedron..never know which way it's gonna bounce sometimes And it is a generally known fact in scientific circles that heads with more sides than a dodecahedron are detrimental to footballing qualities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 distin gets to the ball but sometimes seems to have a head with more sides than a dodecahedron..never know which way it's gonna bounce sometimes This is why I call him 50p head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 He's doing a q&a on twitter and here's the news we were all waiting for... @Johnheitinga: Dear @BlueChris, to be honest I never touched Marouanes hair. So I don’t know how it feels (: Oh yeah and he also mentioned... @Johnheitinga: Dear @mark_unsworth Yes, I will fight for my position and stay at #Everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 @Johnheitinga: Dear @Younggb, I learnt in football never to say never. #Ajax and #Everton are my clubs. The time isn’t there yet to come to Amsterdam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 distin gets to the ball but sometimes seems to have a head with more sides than a dodecahedron..never know which way it's gonna bounce sometimes Perhaps this is why he's brought the hair back. He's more directionally sound with that forgiving bit of cushion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 @Johnheitinga: Dear @HughesyTW9 as far as I know al these Tottenham rumours are not true. As I said before I stay at #Goodison @Johnheitinga: Dear @nail_neuer I think u make a big mistake. #Everton is a big club. A club where I feel really well. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I knew his heart was blue! I think he'll stay with us for awhile, and then go to Ajax for a few final seasons, however, you never know what could happen, especially if a massive club came in for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I knew his heart was blue! I think he'll stay with us for awhile, and then go to Ajax for a few final seasons, however, you never know what could happen, especially if a massive club came in for him. Never gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Never gonna happen. Probably not. Just covering all hypothetical situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mirallas Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Never gonna happen. I'd rate Arsenal capable of such a move lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Confused about values....apparently Barcelona are going to offer Chelsea £30m for David Luiz. He's been pretty shit hasn't he? How is valued so much lower . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Confused about values....apparently Barcelona are going to offer Chelsea £30m for David Luiz. He's been pretty shit hasn't he? How is valued so much lower . Chelsea's style doesn't fit him too well. He's more playful and attacking minded, and Chelsea defends a bit more ruggedly. He isn't always as solid, but if you'd imagine him in a more attacking team like Manchester City next to Kompany, I think it makes a lot of sense. In a more playful, attacking team where you can change positions and where you can rely on your midfield, I think Luiz could be world class. Italian style football especially, cause Man CIty's style looks more Italian than English to me. I don't know about Barca, cause if you pay 30 mil, logically you put him in your starting line-up. Are they planning on a Piqué-Luiz central defense partnership? I don't know about that, I'd rather see him go to City for the sake of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 I don't know about Barca, cause if you pay 30 mil, logically you put him in your starting line-up. Are they planning on a Piqué-Luiz central defense partnership? I don't know about that, Don't know either....the story was in The Times so can't see it without subscription. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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