EFC-Paul Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 I really don't get these piss poor figures banded around for one of the league's better CB's in My eyes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 8m is awful business..you reckon the shite would sell agger or skrtel for that amount? just turnded down 16m for Agger apparently... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 point proven..heitinga is better imo...agger is younger but is always injured Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 8m is awful business..you reckon the shite would sell agger or skrtel for that amount? just turnded down 16m for Agger apparently... point proven..heitinga is better imo...agger is younger but is always injured Just what I was about to post. Have just seen on skysports website about those bids for agger, as if we are looking at selling Johnny for anything below what Agger goes for. I would be furious if he left anyway but only to get around 5-8 million for him.... I would be seething especially when Agger who isnt as good as Johnny in my eyes is being touted for around £16 Million. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 If Inter were to stump up the 8M that all the papers are saying they will then it might be alright business. Bring Zapata in on a free as a replacement and have a spare 8M to sign a winger or another striker. No way, I would hate for us to sell one of our back for, all good teams are built around the back for and goalkepper which are all areas where we are pretty strong. I wouldnt sell Johnny for £20 million. It is so important to keep the defenders we have as they all have a good understanding between each other and no amount of money can buy that. Zapata maybe a better player but he may look like a clown in the premier league as he may not be able to adjust and create an understanding with either Jags/Distin/Duffy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 The difference with Agger and Heitinga is that we are piss poor and Liverpool are not as piss poor so clubs know they can try the lower prices as we may get the pinch from the Banks to sell. It doesnt help that its Man City in for Agger too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 why don't we just sell fellaini for 8m too then? heitinga is better than he was when we bought him..more experienced at a high level..and we bought him for over 5m..why would we sell him for a fraction of a profit? don't care how bad the finances are they aren't bad enough to make us sell our best players for fuck all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 why don't we just sell fellaini for 8m too then? heitinga is better than he was when we bought him..more experienced at a high level..and we bought him for over 5m..why would we sell him for a fraction of a profit? don't care how bad the finances are they aren't bad enough to make us sell our best players for fuck all I am not saying we should sell I am saying that could be the mindset of clubs, for instance why would you pay a large fee for an item whereby a club is know to be struggling for money? take Jelavic for instance worth alot more than what we paid for him, at the same time you would hope that the club would stand firm in that he is obviously worth more than that, my point was that clubs chance their arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 and if they do then we say no..simple as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 why don't we just sell fellaini for 8m too then? heitinga is better than he was when we bought him..more experienced at a high level..and we bought him for over 5m..why would we sell him for a fraction of a profit? don't care how bad the finances are they aren't bad enough to make us sell our best players for fuck all Exactly.. I don't think the finances are that bad where we need to start selling our players at a fraction of the price. If we were to sell him at 8 million for arguments sake could we find a centre half as good as him around his age with premier league experience and not to mention all the experience he has gained from playing in Europe and being the first choice centre half for the 3rd best country in the world (fifa rankings...guessing around 3rd) would Chelsea let there centre half go for 8 million, would Newcastle, would Liverpool, would spurs.. No I don't think they would so neither should we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 if i was getting offered 16 million for agger i would snatch it,if city are really offering that he will go,lets be honest hes not as good as lescott. as for johnny if 8 million is offered i think he will go,if its inter he will want to go,im sure moyes will cover his departure. Agger won't be going anywhere because Liverpool have rejected two bids already one of them being as high as 16 million. Ofcouse he would and nobody would have a problem with him wanting to go..who could blame him, better climate, better pay...I would assume, one of the worlds most glamours and biggest clubs and champions league football playing with your best mate and some of the worlds best players. But he would go on our terms and in my opinion the bidding would have to start around 15 million. Moyes am sure would replace him but I can assure it would be a replacement with half the ability and experience of johnny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanning07 Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Everyone is saying Johnny shouldn't go for less than 10mil coz of a 16mil bid from City for Agger. But think about it, its City for fooks sake! Of course they're gonna bid above market value! No one else accept Chelski, Barca or Real would bid that much for him. Only reason they're interested in Agger was coz he had a decent Euro while Johnny didn't do himself justice. In our situation we may have no choice but to accept around the 8mil mark. Unless City make a bid of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Everyone is saying Johnny shouldn't go for less than 10mil coz of a 16mil bid from City for Agger. But think about it, its City for fooks sake! Of course they're gonna bid above market value! No one else accept Chelski, Barca or Real would bid that much for him. Only reason they're interested in Agger was coz he had a decent Euro while Johnny didn't do himself justice. In our situation we may have no choice but to accept around the 8mil mark. Unless City make a bid of course! Heitinga played in the WC final two years ago and is a better player now than then and is 4 caps away from being in the top ten most capped players for the Netherlands. On top of that the amount of money in football means a even higher inflation of players prices. So he should be valued for a lot more than the £6 mil we paid for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/contract-cock-up-sees-everton-defender-1221122 Um.. what? How could an Everton official not know how long he had left.. I hope this is not true.. sounds ominous that he'll leave though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Why are we wanting to shift him out anyway ffs? And I pray to god Moyes doesn't actually see Hanley as a suitable replacement. We get a player of proper quality at the back and all we want to do is get rid and play with two cloggers at the back. I despair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Playing today at Blackpool, Duffy is his partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Agree with Mark. Why are we desperate to get rid? It's f*ckin rediculous. Normally we only sell our dead wood but to sell star performers on the back of strong seasons, is rediculous. And would an 'official' really make that "mistake"? Surely as a standard the players file would be taken to any delegation meeting, including info on his contract and wages etc. Seems a bit iffy anyway...? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 well after todays performance it wouldnt bother me who we sold. Wasn't today a pre-season friendly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Testimonial, they were going to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Testimonial, they were going to win. Same thing... we lost - shit, sell them all! Moyes out! Kenwright out! Sell Pienaar!!! Send the season ticket back!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 ye but we still want our players to perform..and lets face it, today we got outplayed in pretty much every department. Our two centre backs being the worst of our performers. Both looked clumsy, slow and at times reckless. But you are right we cant look too much into it as it is only a friendly. Just disapointed thats all. On a brighter note, Barkley looked impressive in his little cameo and Naismith already looks like he is going to fit in perfectly patto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 i think your going over the top a bit,all i did was pass a comment on the way we played,we should be playing our best team now ready for the start of the season. we were very poor today and its not acceptable,the coaching staff need to sort it out quick for we havnt done very good so far. ...and not being bothered about who we sell on the back of a friendly defeat isn't going over the top? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 as the thread was about centre backs,the answer is no. Didn't we have the 4th best defensive record last season? They must have got really rubbish over the summer hols! ...or maybe they're still working towards match fitness/sharpness as it's pre-season. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Chelsea lost 3-1 to Brighton. £237m starting 11! Pre-season isn't a good indicator as to who you should sell from your squad. Overall, season long performances are more realistic. I certainly wouldn't take one game as the reason to sell. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Chelsea lost 3-1 to Brighton. £237m starting 11! Pre-season isn't a good indicator as to who you should sell from your squad. Overall, season long performances are more realistic. I certainly wouldn't take one game as the reason to sell. Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 You guys might not be so worried about it but I bet you Moyes isnt happy with the way the team are playing. He isnt the type of manager to take these games lightly and while he would see the bigger picture with fitness & form, given the starting line up im sure he would be expecting more from the performance even if the result was the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I've not heard anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see Heitinga end up at Spurs this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Savage Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) I know it doesn't mean much but it's all over twitter. Ten million apparently. It would be sad to see him go and we definitely need a replacement. Edited August 21, 2012 by Noble Savage Noble Savage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 If there's anything in this then £10m must be the minimum on the basis of Dawson to QPR. It's safe to say spurs will move fast as they've just sold 2 cb's. Will that be fast enough for us to have money in the bank for Johnson? I don't want johnny gone especially to spurs but can we keep Distin, jags and johnny happy? The only way we can is with johnny in mid! If the money is good and means strenthening elsewhere then I may eventually get over this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Wahey, let's sell the youngest of them. Maybe we'll go after Gardner again so we've got experienced cover. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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