c1982 Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 I'd have him in a flash - fits straight in. He would be handy this jan/feb/march with pienaar away with south Africa. Is he better than Gueye/Coleman/Anichebe - yes/yes/yes. Should be a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 He's not as 'god-like' as most of you suggest. Seriously. A handful of good games during a half dozen spell, does NOT make a decent player. There are just as many games where he was completely anonymous, to justify not binging him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 He's no god but he's a good player who does well at us and adds something to us whilst giving it his all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Lol, a few of you sound like the lad who got turned down by the pretty girl, and responded by saying she was ugly anyway. I was wary about him coming back the second time, and have said I wouldn't want him to come back again. Not because he's said he's said its unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) Theres no questioning his work ethics. He always worked hard for Everton and thats what i liked about him. A month ago i would have been very happy if he was on his way. Now? We dont need him. Mirallas can cover for Pienaar. Naismith can play on the right. We have Osman, Gueye, Coleman, Ani and Barkley, all who can play on either right or left wing. (if need be) even Neville could cover on the right wing. We dont need Landon, but he was one of my favourites when he was here. Edited August 27, 2012 by Peter H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolne Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Captain Phil!? You must be kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 I was wary about him coming back the second time, and have said I wouldn't want him to come back again. Not because he's said he's said its unlikely. I'm not overly concerned if he returns. I've always tried to be clear headed about the guy when others became romantically attached, but our squad is a better squad with him in it than not. I think the problem is the timing and age of the guy regarding a transfer. He is undoubtably a good footballer, but he can't keep doing the 'no rest' thing at that age, and I think he's been very honest throughout. Had we signed him the first time, I feel we would have gotten 3 good years from him at least, but there is no resale value now if we bought him, so although I would take him on a free without question, it wouldn't make sense to throw money at a deal unless it was very cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 I'm not overly concerned if he returns. I've always tried to be clear headed about the guy when others became romantically attached, but our squad is a better squad with him in it than not. I think the problem is the timing and age of the guy regarding a transfer. He is undoubtably a good footballer, but he can't keep doing the 'no rest' thing at that age, and I think he's been very honest throughout. Had we signed him the first time, I feel we would have gotten 3 good years from him at least, but there is no resale value now if we bought him, so although I would take him on a free without question, it wouldn't make sense to throw money at a deal unless it was very cheap. I loved him in his first spell, I thought he was fantastic for us, but when it was announced he was coming back the second time I was worried he wouldn't match what he'd shown the first time round (older, slower etc). And there's no doubt his second spell was a bit of a let down. I can only remember one thing from his second spell; a through ball for Anichebe to score against Villa. He looked to have lost a hell of a lot of pace too, and that is one of the main reasons he was so successful the first time round for us. Like you said, buying him now wouldn't make much sense for the price we'd have to pay so I'm with you on that. I'm not sure I'd even want him on a free now though tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 i'd rather give gueye or coleman more playing time...coleman looks close to exciting again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 i'd rather give gueye or coleman more playing time...coleman looks close to exciting again He's gained a yard of pace from somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Captain Phil!? You must be kidding. Ïm saying could, if the other 6 all were injured. Im NOT saying should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 i think we have moved on from needing him to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 i think we have moved on from needing him to be honest. Agreed however I will admit that he did give us a lot more balance in midfeild with him being a proper winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/espnfcunited/id/1276?cc=5739 There seems to be a possibility of him joining after his MLS contract has expired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 On a free it wouldn't be too bad, but I'd hope he'd only be a bit part player for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Be a 'meh' signing again. Agree with Mark, bit player, no more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Would be delighted personally - we brought Naismith on for Vic on Sunday to try to change the game - I think Donovan is still a better option than both. He would certainly improve our still very small squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 He brings that little bit of quality in the final third and I certainly wouldnt say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I like his work ethics. Makes a change from Anichebes work ethics on the right, but unless hes on really low wages id say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 On a free it wouldn't be too bad, but I'd hope he'd only be a bit part player for us. Wow... Romey and me agree on Donovan now... It's too bad that he seems to have lost his love of playing football... A very talented player and the biggest soccer star in my country (Unless Dempsey has surpassed Donovan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Wow... Romey and me agree on Donovan now... It's too bad that he seems to have lost his love of playing football... A very talented player and the biggest soccer star in my country (Unless Dempsey has surpassed Donovan) I don't know that he's lost his love. I think it has more or less been strangled out of him by the MLS essentially holding him prisoner. I don't think he cares about playing for the Galaxy anymore, and being forced to do so is really depressing him. He just sounds extremely depressed to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Wow... Romey and me agree on Donovan now... It's too bad that he seems to have lost his love of playing football... A very talented player and the biggest soccer star in my country (Unless Dempsey has surpassed Donovan) Dempsey has 100% surpassed Donovan. I do not like Landon Donovan on a personal level, but although he's lot a bit of speed he'd still be an asset for Everton. Still capable of expanding the field and putting some good balls into the box while adding a secondary scoring ability as well. We shouldn't break the bank for him and I don't think Los Angeles would sell him unless they got a sizable bid, but if he wants to come to the team on a free then I am 100% for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Dempsey has 100% surpassed Donovan. I do not like Landon Donovan on a personal level, but although he's lot a bit of speed he'd still be an asset for Everton. Still capable of expanding the field and putting some good balls into the box while adding a secondary scoring ability as well. We shouldn't break the bank for him and I don't think Los Angeles would sell him unless they got a sizable bid, but if he wants to come to the team on a free then I am 100% for it. Just curious, what's your problem with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Is his contract not up at the end of this season so would essentially be on a free or does it work differently over the pond with ownership of contracts and so on? I would like to see him return personally.. Edited October 25, 2012 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 His contract runs 'til the end of 2013. So, if we were to get him any time this season, or before next, we would be paying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 I don't know that he's lost his love. I think it has more or less been strangled out of him by the MLS essentially holding him prisoner. I don't think he cares about playing for the Galaxy anymore, and being forced to do so is really depressing him. He just sounds extremely depressed to me. Interesting point... I think you could be right about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Just curious, what's your problem with him? It's hard to explain. but I can assure you I am not alone in disliking him here in America. He comes off as a whiny, entitled prick. He comes off as a guy who thinks he's hot shit. The 2010 World Cup was a shock to a lot of people. Not because Landon was productive, but because he was playing with his heart on his sleeve. And a lot of us were hoping that this was the sign of a changed man. But once the WC ended it was back to the same antics and attitude. He's not even close to Joey Barton/John Terry levels of dislike, but it's just not easy to root for Landon the way it is very, very easy to root for guys like Clint Dempsey, Tim Howard, Carlos Bocanegra, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 It's hard to explain. but I can assure you I am not alone in disliking him here in America. He comes off as a whiny, entitled prick. He comes off as a guy who thinks he's hot shit. The 2010 World Cup was a shock to a lot of people. Not because Landon was productive, but because he was playing with his heart on his sleeve. And a lot of us were hoping that this was the sign of a changed man. But once the WC ended it was back to the same antics and attitude. He's not even close to Joey Barton/John Terry levels of dislike, but it's just not easy to root for Landon the way it is very, very easy to root for guys like Clint Dempsey, Tim Howard, Carlos Bocanegra, etc. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 It's hard to explain. but I can assure you I am not alone in disliking him here in America. He comes off as a whiny, entitled prick. He comes off as a guy who thinks he's hot shit. The 2010 World Cup was a shock to a lot of people. Not because Landon was productive, but because he was playing with his heart on his sleeve. And a lot of us were hoping that this was the sign of a changed man. But once the WC ended it was back to the same antics and attitude. He's not even close to Joey Barton/John Terry levels of dislike, but it's just not easy to root for Landon the way it is very, very easy to root for guys like Clint Dempsey, Tim Howard, Carlos Bocanegra, etc. I understand this, mostly. I used to have maybe more than a slight dislike for Donovan, but in hindsight I think it was due to the non-stop, singular, attention he was given when it came to the USMNT. I couldn't stand him, because he was the media darling and the supposed savior of US Soccer. But, with the emergence of Dempsey as a larger figure, my dislike for him has waned, and I can really appreciate the guy. When he's been at Everton he's been nothing but a hard-working team player and a classy individual. Dempsey, however, I have grown to have an intense distaste for. He's quality, but he never seems to put in the work. He's also taken to diving, which, as an American, will always piss me off. The way he handled everything with Fulham has completely destroyed anything positive I felt for that guy. I love Timmy, Bradley, Cherundulo, Johnson, Williams, and Agudelo, among others, though. These guys always put in the work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 I understand this, mostly. I used to have maybe more than a slight dislike for Donovan, but in hindsight I think it was due to the non-stop, singular, attention he was given when it came to the USMNT. I couldn't stand him, because he was the media darling and the supposed savior of US Soccer. But, with the emergence of Dempsey as a larger figure, my dislike for him has waned, and I can really appreciate the guy. When he's been at Everton he's been nothing but a hard-working team player and a classy individual. Dempsey, however, I have grown to have an intense distaste for. He's quality, but he never seems to put in the work. He's also taken to diving, which, as an American, will always piss me off. The way he handled everything with Fulham has completely destroyed anything positive I felt for that guy. I love Timmy, Bradley, Cherundulo, Johnson, Williams, and Agudelo, among others, though. These guys always put in the work. I understand what you're saying. But it's different when Donovan is at Everton because he's just another guy. In the US he's a figurehead and top player in the MLS. In England, nobody gives a shit who Landon Donovan is. So he loses the attitude and snotty demeanor and just plays. I understand what you're saying about Dempsey with Fullham and the diving, but I still respect the hell out of him. He was irrelevant at the U-17 and U-20 levels and, although he was certainly a very good player in the MLS, I don't think anybody ever though he was going to become what he is today. And the dude definitely takes a lot of knocks diving in for balls in the box and poaching in general. I understand what you're saying but ultimately Dempsey plays like he would sacrifice a limb just to get the US a World Cup. And I have to respect that. Lando plays like he's trying to earn a new Nike deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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