pete0 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 I think you are trying to be more acute than the topic allows. Gerrard simply put - had an insane ability to test the keeper or score from 25 yards with ease. How many fuckin times did you see him do it to us, to the mancs, European opponents, cup finals. The number of corners he won from such shots wasn't shabby. I honestly don't know where you get your stuff from at times. From a man I'd class as Liverpool's biggest fan. He watched him home and away nighty minutes at a time. Motd don't show the countless ones that go no where near. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 From a man I'd class as Liverpool's biggest fan. He watched him home and away nighty minutes at a time. Motd don't show the countless ones that go no where near. Unfortunately I've had the misfortune of watching him play 90 minutes on quite a few occasions. Misfortune because he was a fucking great player who wore the Liverpool shirt and he scored numerous goals against us. Let's leave it that... if you want to try and convince people that gerrard was some sort of lottery ticket buying chancer who scored the odd lucky goal then you may as well stuck to trying to convince us jags was a poor defender cos he never got enough bookings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Unfortunately I've had the misfortune of watching him play 90 minutes on quite a few occasions. Misfortune because he was a fucking great player who wore the Liverpool shirt and he scored numerous goals against us. Let's leave it that... if you want to try and convince people that gerrard was some sort of lottery ticket buying chancer who scored the odd lucky goal then you may as well stuck to trying to convince us jags was a poor defender cos he never got enough bookings. Both have held their clubs back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Both have held their clubs back. Haha yeah of course they have. I often hear liverpool fans saying how they preferred aquilani or salif diou. That gerrard never really did much for them... aside from a champions league, an fa cup final, a league cup etc. Many an Evertonian will question the wisdom of playing the solid reliable jags instead of Joseph calamity yobo. Maybe we should have kept per kroldrup too... Honestly - i dont know whether you are taking the piss at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Can I just say I rated Yobo and he wasn't a bad player at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Can I just say I rated Yobo and he wasn't a bad player at all! Once in a while he looked world class... the rest of the time he looked absolutely shite. Very weird player. Totally unreliable. I used to hate watching him play against michael Owen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Haha yeah of course they have. I often hear liverpool fans saying how they preferred aquilani or salif diou. That gerrard never really did much for them... aside from a champions league, an fa cup final, a league cup etc. Many an Evertonian will question the wisdom of playing the solid reliable jags instead of Joseph calamity yobo. Maybe we should have kept per kroldrup too... Honestly - i dont know whether you are taking the piss at times. Stats put yobo ahead of Jags. We were much more solid with him, already proved this to you. Not gonna argue it again. There's a search function to right if you like. Alonso would be my first pick. Gerrard was an all-rounder. You do better with specialists. Liverpool would have won the league without him. His England career shows how poor he is without the English referees to assist him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Timing could come down to his agent twice spouting off "oh he's signing" in recent times, maybe Rom has done this as everyone just keeps asking him when is he signing and he's had enough of the questions, or maybe he doesn't want to lead the fans on that he is about to sign? I don't know, just like everyone else. See I don't see him being impatient as such, how many times has Everton pissed us all off in the transfer market? We are still taking our time with everything, yes we are moving forward but an example is how long it took for us to sign Morgan, we missed out on targets such as Gabbidini. Last summer we only spent money once Stones was gone. I do fully understand what you mean by he is being impatient as we are heading forward, but at what pace? I can see the argument for him using this as his "good guy" excuse for pushing through a transfer as well mind, I just thought I'd offer one possible side to all of this. I understand the perspective for sure. As a supporter I never assumed this transition would be lightning quick. But then that's the difference between playing and being a fan obviously. His career being only a moment in a long view spectrum for me. It'd be great if he wanted to be apart of a club that I believe does have the ambition he speaks of, but if he doesn't it's no matter to me. Mostly when I speak of timing I'm referring to the comments coinciding with our good form. For what it's worth, everyone seems all good: http://www.gettyimages.com/photos/everton-fc?excludenudity=false&family=editorial&phrase=everton%20fc&sort=best I check that weekly because it seems like a nice behind the scenes glimpse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Some weird shit goes down in this topic!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Some weird shit goes down in this topic!!! Ain't that the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Both have held their clubs back. Game , set and match to Haf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Leon Osman says Rom is "stirring the pot" to force a transfer. We knew that anyway, he said last year he would only stay for another season, and everybody accepted it. The club should have gone out and bought a decent replacement then left Rom sitting on the bench. We shouldn't pamper to any player, if he doesn't want to be here, pack his bags and take him to the airport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 In an ideal world but it's not that simple. Firstly, who donyou attract when you still have Rom? Top strikers won't come to us anyway, will the next level down sign for us knowing they aren't as good as Rom so probably won't play? Tell them they will play as Rom will be benched, why would they sign then if that's how you treat a player from their point of view. Rom has bee benched for a season, hasn't proved to be worth £70m for over 12 months. Who would pay that kind of money for a player who's been benched for 12 months? So maybe we get £45m then? Can we afford to lose £30m and the extra league position money because Rom hasn't been scoring for us and we've finished three places lower in the league? So we've finished 9th, have about £30m less to spend on players, who are we attracting to the club now? And that's only a handful of variables, forget the effect we have on other players inside and outside the club, the effect with agents and sponsors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 So you bow down and worship him Steve. This is what I'm talking about, he's holding the club to ransom, nobody should be allowed to do that. Have said further up that we lose good players all the time, Lineker, Latchford, Sharp, all go out by retirement or transfer, but we still continue with 11 players in the team. We might miss him for a while but somebody else will turn up, onwards and upwards i say, he clearly wants to be somewhere else so sell the bastard and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 If Rom's doing it on the pitch then it shouldn't matter what's going on off it. As long as his performances are benefitting us then he plays. If this changes then it's a different story. He wants to play at a higher level - fair enough - to get there he'll benefit us with his goals in turn raising his profile and price. I'd certainly rather know now than in August if he's leaving (which of course Koeman et al will decide) as we've got time now to make sure we get what we need in first. As Osman said, this should stay in house but it hasn't and Rom will have to deal with the reaction - I for one will be supporting him as I do any player with our badge on their chest. I expect he'll bag a couple today and go on to be the golden boot winner this season - benefitting him but more importantly Everton FC. holystove and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 So you bow down and worship him Steve. This is what I'm talking about, he's holding the club to ransom, nobody should be allowed to do that. Have said further up that we lose good players all the time, Lineker, Latchford, Sharp, all go out by retirement or transfer, but we still continue with 11 players in the team. We might miss him for a while but somebody else will turn up, onwards and upwards i say, he clearly wants to be somewhere else so sell the bastard and move on. I'm with your stance Bill, but I don't think he is being allowed to hold the club to ransome. From listening to Koemans words, he won't be allowed to. Also, listening to Koeman, I think if his levels drop, he will be dropped. Koeman has a whole different approach to Martinez. We have to get the most out of Lukaku as a key player, whilst also maintaining his high value and also pursuing our current hunt on the top 6. I don't think this is about worshiping or bowing down. It's football. Lukaku has insulted some important people at the club while questioning our ambition. Moshiri. Koeman. Every squad member. Some fans have fallen for it. Those who matter inside the club don't seem to have. I'm confident we'll fight fire with fire with Lukaku now. Where as I don't think we did before. I'm fine with him staying (so long as he keeps his mouth shut) but not worried if he goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4325248/Carragher-Romelu-Lukaku-right-snub-Everton-deal.html jammie carragher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Lukaku let himself down with his comments this week. Footballers really are just daft sometimes, he doesn't want to sign a new contract, fine, but keep your mouth shut and get on with the job. If he scores today, fine, he gets paid to do that and you can just put the talk down to immaturity or bad advice or whatever. But if he looks off the pace he'll get slaughtered and can't really complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 I'm not even surprised. Just watched the game them and in a chance that was missed by defender tracking back with a great tackle on DCL he moaned like fuck because he never got the pass.... he never made the right run. He likes things his way - always has done. At a supposed bigger club he will have to share the spoils and stop being a prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Everton's 31-year wait for a striker to hit 20+ goals in a season is over. nutmegwolf203 and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 It will be so awesome if he wins the golden boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 It will be so awesome if he wins the golden boot. His move away will be sorted by then. He's Deffo off. Osman pretty much used to the fact and said he's stirred the pot which is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Everton's 31-year wait for a striker to hit 20+ goals in a season is over. I'm so happy! I hope he gets the golden boot too. What a season! nutmegwolf203 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Two well taken goals and showed his appreciation to the crowd. Not one of our better players today but not a bad game by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 2 smart finishes. What you come to expect from him when one on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Two well taken goals and showed his appreciation to the crowd. Not one of our better players today but not a bad game by any means. Not a great game at all but he still ends up with 2 goals and an assist. That's why he's amongst the best strikers in world football. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Two well taken goals and showed his appreciation to the crowd. Not one of our better players today but not a bad game by any means. agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Everton's 31-year wait for a striker to hit 20+ goals in a season is over. And he doesn't have penalties to boost his total unlike the pack chasing him for the Golden Boot (Kane has five, Sanchez three, Ibrahimovic two and Costa just the one). So in fact league goals from open play... Lukaku 21 Costa 16 Kane 14 Sanchez 14 Ibrahimovic 13 Sibdane and nutmegwolf203 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Always a good point of reference: http://www.gettyimages.com/photos/everton-fc?excludenudity=false&family=editorial&phrase=everton%20fc&sort=best Shirt to the fans doesn't look like a goodbye to me, it looks like a sorry, of sorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 2 smart finishes. What you come to expect from him when one on one. 2 good finishes and another assist, or are we still pretending he offers nothing else to the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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