Romey 1878 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/arteta-focused-after-set-back.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Beat me by two minutes Mark . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Beat me by two minutes Mark . Diddums . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I can't wait for him to get back; Pienaar Arteta Rodwell Cahill Bily That midfield excites me. It has a little bit of everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I can't wait for him to get back; Pienaar Arteta Rodwell Cahill Bily That midfield excites me. It has a little bit of everything. Fellaini is being forgotten fast, he's not been playing well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toffeeman Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I can't wait for him to get back; Pienaar Arteta Rodwell Cahill Bily That midfield excites me. It has a little bit of everything. Apart from pace And does anyone think Bilyaletdinov looks more suited to a more central role? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Apart from pace And does anyone think Bilyaletdinov looks more suited to a more central role? But it has pace of thought, in my opinion that is more important. Arteta, Bily and Pienaar have "quick" minds and can create the chances, we dont need to have pace to burn in the team when we have players who can out thin oppositions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Fellaini is being forgotten fast, he's not been playing well enough. I hadn't forgotten him. But with a fully fit team I think it's hard to logically include him in the team if we are to go on ability alone, the same can be said about Neville. Now I love Neville but you have to detach yourself from your heart with this, Rodwell is the future and even at such a young age is already a better player than Neville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs392762 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I agree with jamie. Neville is a great presense but not a starter when were healthy. Felli could take the place of one of them. I havent quite figured out where Billy will fit best. He serves up dirty balls from the wings, but could see him scoring goals in the middle. I think Cahill is looking forward to Mikel coming back the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Cahill in a midfield lineup with both Arteta and Bily could be vicious. With that much of a constant air threat defenses should also give the striker a little more room. To say I'm looking forward to this combination on the field is an understatement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toffeeman Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 But it has pace of thought, in my opinion that is more important. Arteta, Bily and Pienaar have "quick" minds and can create the chances, we dont need to have pace to burn in the team when we have players who can out thin oppositions. I agree with that, but don't you think that his precise passing and quick feet could be better utilised in the middle rather than on the wing, where he seems unable to beat his man for pace? We have Pienaar on one wing but i don't think we have any other natural first team wingers. Osman- No, Cahill- No, Arteta- No etc.. I think Bilyaletdinov played attacking midfield for Lokomotiv and featured on the wings when needed. I think that is where he should be playing but with the amount of options we have in the middle i can only see Moyes playing him on the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlmc25 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) I agree with jamie. Neville is a great presense but not a starter when were healthy. Felli could take the place of one of them. I havent quite figured out where Billy will fit best. He serves up dirty balls from the wings, but could see him scoring goals in the middle. I think Cahill is looking forward to Mikel coming back the most. I disagree about Neville. Rodwell may be more assured on the ball but he gives nothing like the protection to the back 4 and the general involvement in the game that Neville does, Rodwell goes missing in virtually every game whereas Neville was superb last season. Rodwell still has a lot to prove for me, he has the ability and potential and that may be good enough for the future but it's not enough for the here and now, he needs to contribute more otherwise I'd drop him as soon as Neville is fit. Edited October 8, 2009 by carlmc25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs392762 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I agree that Neville aids the back four better than Jack does, but I think this whole lineup change depends on the team and style were playing. Jack is better at going forward and being offensive when needed, yet he can still be a holding midfielder. Jack can score goals where Neville is a far shot for that. Neville is the veteran with experience though. It will be interesting to see how Moyes handles this situation in big games. I love that were debtating this because this means we finally have depth for the first time in a few seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlmc25 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I agree that Neville aids the back four better than Jack does, but I think this whole lineup change depends on the team and style were playing. Jack is better at going forward and being offensive when needed, yet he can still be a holding midfielder. Jack can score goals where Neville is a far shot for that. Neville is the veteran with experience though. It will be interesting to see how Moyes handles this situation in big games. I love that were debtating this because this means we finally have depth for the first time in a few seasons Arteta, Pienaar and Cahill will provide/score the goals - Rodwell/Neville will be there to provide defensive cover as their primary function, Rodwell still can't cut it so he'll be dropped unless he improves as Neville does that job much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Guess the question being asked is which present Everton player is more capable of filling the Carsley role, a role done so well we didn't even notice what a good player he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Didn't we we buy Fellaini to replace Carsley? £3m more could have gotten Moutinho allegedly......... (bit like buying one of thise TV/DVD combo's from Tesco and seeing a 32"" Samsung for £20 more a day later) p.s anyone seen moutinho recently? watched him last week, outstanding player, similar to arteta but more box to box. Great mobility, speed of thought and technique. The best player to replace Carsley is Rodwell, evidently we haven't got the money to do that in the market in order to allow Jack the time to stand back and develop at the right pace, instead we may end up over analysing a kid just out of the reserves against a champs league, FA cup, league winning captain. Rodwell is the second best centre midfielder we have, the problem is that the best one is injured. Neville is a great leader, a person who will do anything he can to win, he is not a first choice midfielder in a top 4 team, if he was, he would still be at United, but I am happy he is here. Rodwell is the new Rooney, we will all be looking at him to do the things experienced players should be doing, await the return of Arteta, you don't realise how good something is till it's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Didn't we we buy Fellaini to replace Carsley? £3m more could have gotten Moutinho allegedly......... (bit like buying one of thise TV/DVD combo's from Tesco and seeing a 32"" Samsung for £20 more a day later) p.s anyone seen moutinho recently? watched him last week, outstanding player, similar to arteta but more box to box. Great mobility, speed of thought and technique. The best player to replace Carsley is Rodwell, evidently we haven't got the money to do that in the market in order to allow Jack the time to stand back and develop at the right pace, instead we may end up over analysing a kid just out of the reserves against a champs league, FA cup, league winning captain. Rodwell is the second best centre midfielder we have, the problem is that the best one is injured. Neville is a great leader, a person who will do anything he can to win, he is not a first choice midfielder in a top 4 team, if he was, he would still be at United, but I am happy he is here. Rodwell is the new Rooney, we will all be looking at him to do the things experienced players should be doing, await the return of Arteta, you don't realise how good something is till it's gone. thats the key word there if it was true im sure they would have found it to buy moutinho...sporting wanted it all upfront i think and liege were happy to deal with installments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 If that's the case then truely gutted, I never knew enough about him but seen the youtube stuff which actually could make Brett Angel look great. Watched a good 15mins live and in that time he was none stop, box to box, making things happen. Would have been a landmark signing. Better than I think his reputation suggests and for his size would have no probs with the EPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 If that's the case then truely gutted, I never knew enough about him but seen the youtube stuff which actually could make Brett Angel look great. Watched a good 15mins live and in that time he was none stop, box to box, making things happen. Would have been a landmark signing. Better than I think his reputation suggests and for his size would have no probs with the EPL. I'm fairly sure it would not have been the case, We paid a fee upfront for Fellaini and the rest apparently in installments for all we know Sporting may have wanted it in one lump sum you don't just look at figure's and say oh we could have got him for x amount more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaminfox Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 i think we should have peanuts arteta fellaini rodwell bily midfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 i think we should have peanuts arteta fellaini rodwell bily midfield Looks a great midfield, personally I would prefer Cahill to Felli though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toffeeman Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Looks a great midfield, personally I would prefer Cahill to Felli though definitely, he typifies everything Everton is about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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