Matt Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Steven 'Can't Stick To The Speed Limit' Pienaar? Glad he's going. Those two were obviously rubbing off on each other! If they both went, we'd be saving 6m a year in wages.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Savage Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 FFS we are the party boys. George green, Francisco junior, Darron Gibson, who's next? Billy Kenny and VDM before them . With the exception of Junior they could all be a massive part of our history. Glad the cyclist is okay. Martinez should sack him to show everyone this will not be tolerated . markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Funny how they're all signings made by a Scot.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Martinez should sack him to show everyone this will not be tolerated . agree here but there is the flip side to supporting him etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 nothing on the OS about this yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Steven 'Can't Stick To The Speed Limit' Pienaar? Glad he's going. Those two were obviously rubbing off on each other! Pienaar was also cited for drink driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 nothing on the OS about this yet. I'd guess that means they're sorting out the legal implications for his contract then first before posting anything. If they planned to keep him there'd be some "naughty boy, but the club will deal with it" kind of news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 I'd guess that means they're sorting out the legal implications for his contract then first before posting anything. If they planned to keep him there'd be some "naughty boy, but the club will deal with it" kind of news. yeah i'm sure the lawyers are scouring the contract trying to find a way out, i don't blame them TBH, 50k a week is a lot of money to us for a injured party boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 yeah i'm sure the lawyers are scouring the contract trying to find a way out, i don't blame them TBH, 50k a week is a lot of money to us for a injured party boy. If he was a boy I'd have a bit of sympathy, youngster with shitloads of money and nothing but time on his hands you can understand making bad decisions. This is a seasoned pro we're talking about. No excuses (not that you were making any). markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 To be honest - would there be an outcry to sack him if it was Rom or Barkley? No, a massive amount of disappointment but there would be none of this "let him go" - there would be people looking to make excuses etc It shouldn't come down to what he is costing us vs his usefulness to the side - but it probably will. Personally I actually think if he has a problem then the club should support him as an employee. I am not happy with him by a long stretch and I was reliably told he was always on the lash a while ago whilst injured and acting up with his mates...but that kinda got ignored. I think having a tendancy to drink a bit more than the average pro will affect any player and its no wonder he's always injured. In all honesty I think the drink culture in the country needs to get in line with how it has been with smoking. The human brain gets changed by drugs and addiction can take over - tobacco and alcohol are drugs, they just earn the government billions of pounds a year so its kinda OK with them. Then again does the government want everyone functioning with a smart brain? Not really, markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Personally I actually think if he has a problem then the club should support him as an employee. I am not happy with him by a long stretch and I was reliably told he was always on the lash a while ago whilst injured and acting up with his mates...but that kinda got ignored. I think having a tendancy to drink a bit more than the average pro will affect any player and its no wonder he's always injured. you bring up a good point haf. if he was willing to do so on "unpaid leave" or something i could understand it, but collecting 50k a week to be in rehab? we just don't have the finance for that. and from reading the article, HE DOES!! 125k car, 2m house, on 50k a week, he can afford his own rehab and get his life back on track. i'm with mike, he's an adult, if it was drinking and was caught drunk (not driving or hit and run), reprimand and work it out. But Drunk, and Driving, and Hit and Run? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Rom and Barkley haven't spent the majority of their Everton career injured, and then spent their recovery time going out and getting pissed and then driving while over the limit, hitting a cyclist and then driving off to hit a petrol pump. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Rom and Barkley haven't spent the majority of their Everton career injured, and then spent their recovery time going out and getting pissed and then driving while over the limit, hitting a cyclist and then driving off to hit a petrol pump. That's why I said "IF". Put it this way not many would be stating "rip up the contract" if One of our regular performing stars went and committed the same crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 That's why I said "IF". Put it this way not many would be stating "rip up the contract" if One of our regular performing stars went and committed the same crime. It's not so much the crime, it's everything else on top of it, which is what I just said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 If its a one off the club should support him. If its more like the George Green situation then terminate his contract and on yer bike Gibbo. Only the player and the club know the answer to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 It's not so much the crime, it's everything else on top of it, which is what I just said. But that's where the game, do the business on the pitch and the club will stand by you as you kung fu kick a fan, bite a player, kick an opponent in the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 But that's where the game, do the business on the pitch and the club will stand by you as you kung fu kick a fan, bite a player, kick an opponent in the head. Not really, I'd still expect and want the club to be harsh with him and do what they saw fit, but when you couple it with the fact that he's spent more time injured than he has playing and is currently out injured but spends his time getting pissed during that recovery and then breaking the law? It shows where his priorities lie; and it's not with Everton Football Club. The club which pays him very well to actually play football. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 He's never fit because he drinks and now someone else is injured because he drinks. On your bike gibbo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 If its a one off the club should support him. If its more like the George Green situation then terminate his contract and on yer bike Gibbo. Only the player and the club know the answer to that. It's not a one-off, at least from what I hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 He's never fit because he drinks and now someone else is injured because he drinks. On your bike gibbo!Injuries follow him around everywhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Again, I'll just state that he's the only player at this club who can actually pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Again, I'll just state that he's the only player at this club who can actually pass. I also think he may be our best passer of the ball. But, unfortunately we've seen him healthy for a grand total of half a season or so since he's been here. It's a shame what has happened to his career with injuries. His behavior off the pitch also makes me question whether or not he's actually put in the work to get himself fit. There's a lot of wasted potential, across the board, with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) I also think he may be our best passer of the ball. But, unfortunately we've seen him healthy for a grand total of half a season or so since he's been here. It's a shame what has happened to his career with injuries. His behavior off the pitch also makes me question whether or not he's actually put in the work to get himself fit. There's a lot of wasted potential, across the board, with him. Spot on. Quinn I've never seen a pass from the physio table make it to the pitch, have you? Edited August 20, 2015 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I also think he may be our best passer of the ball. But, unfortunately we've seen him healthy for a grand total of half a season or so since he's been here. It's a shame what has happened to his career with injuries. His behavior off the pitch also makes me question whether or not he's actually put in the work to get himself fit. There's a lot of wasted potential, across the board, with him. I agree. I just can't get over it. Darron Gibson is to our midfield what Alfa Romeo's are to the former Top Gear cast and petrolheads around the world. It's brilliant when it works, but unfortunately that's far too rare.... Gibson is the band that made one great album and then broke up. Lads, I think I'm heartbroken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 If guilty (if) then he should he sacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 It's not a one-off, at least from what I hear. Didn't the club do 'due diligence' on him before they committed to him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 To be honest - would there be an outcry to sack him if it was Rom or Barkley? No, a massive amount of disappointment but there would be none of this "let him go" - there would be people looking to make excuses etc It shouldn't come down to what he is costing us vs his usefulness to the side - but it probably will. Personally I actually think if he has a problem then the club should support him as an employee. I am not happy with him by a long stretch and I was reliably told he was always on the lash a while ago whilst injured and acting up with his mates...but that kinda got ignored. I think having a tendancy to drink a bit more than the average pro will affect any player and its no wonder he's always injured. In all honesty I think the drink culture in the country needs to get in line with how it has been with smoking. The human brain gets changed by drugs and addiction can take over - tobacco and alcohol are drugs, they just earn the government billions of pounds a year so its kinda OK with them. Then again does the government want everyone functioning with a smart brain? Not really, Excellent point. The hypocrisy surrounding alcohol in this country is staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Great point Haf and that's why I noted do we support him, for one if the rumours of not first time etc are true I think we are better off rid, someone else will snap him up and as said he can afford his own rehab, the issues is whilst they are adults allot of them are so molly coddled through life they have no sense of responsibility so I would worry for him if we let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 To be honest - would there be an outcry to sack him if it was Rom or Barkley? No, a massive amount of disappointment but there would be none of this "let him go" - there would be people looking to make excuses etc It shouldn't come down to what he is costing us vs his usefulness to the side - but it probably will. Personally I actually think if he has a problem then the club should support him as an employee. I am not happy with him by a long stretch and I was reliably told he was always on the lash a while ago whilst injured and acting up with his mates...but that kinda got ignored. I think having a tendancy to drink a bit more than the average pro will affect any player and its no wonder he's always injured. In all honesty I think the drink culture in the country needs to get in line with how it has been with smoking. The human brain gets changed by drugs and addiction can take over - tobacco and alcohol are drugs, they just earn the government billions of pounds a year so its kinda OK with them. Then again does the government want everyone functioning with a smart brain? Not really, They've not done with Green, Drenthe, AVDM, Junior, why would the club look after Gibson? Don't think it's the clubs business at all. It's up to him to seek treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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