Blue4Ever Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) hes a decent player but cant see why people are licking there lips over him nothing above a decent player with a good pass on him, theres teams in the europa who would run rings round him. we need a creative midfielder not another defensive minded one to add to mccarthy barry besic however he is a good squad player. Edited February 25, 2015 by Blue4Ever Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 hes a decent player but cant see why people are licking there lips over him nothing above a decent player with a good pass on him, theres teams in the europa who would run rings round him. we need a creative midfielder not another defensive minded one to add to mccarthy barry besic however he is a good squad player. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 hes a decent player but cant see why people are licking there lips over him nothing above a decent player with a good pass on him, theres teams in the europa who would run rings round him. we need a creative midfielder not another defensive minded one to add to mccarthy barry besic however he is a good squad player. For me he is a creative player, just sits further back. Ok, he doesn't have control like Silva or Messi, but he's always had vision and the ability to pick out a forward pass, something we've been desperately missing. The amount of chances made from when he came one was probably more than the previous 3 Premiership games combined. He's useless at being the defensive player, mind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 For me he is a creative player, just sits further back. Ok, he doesn't have control like Silva or Messi, but he's always had vision and the ability to pick out a forward pass, something we've been desperately missing. The amount of chances made from when he came one was probably more than the previous 3 Premiership games combined. He's useless at being the defensive player, mind you. You shouldn't really be mentioning Gibson in the same sentence as Silva and Messi you know Matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 You shouldn't really be mentioning Gibson in the same sentence as Silva and Messi you know Matt. It was to emphasize the point mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 For me he is a creative player, just sits further back. Ok, he doesn't have control like Silva or Messi, but he's always had vision and the ability to pick out a forward pass, something we've been desperately missing. The amount of chances made from when he came one was probably more than the previous 3 Premiership games combined. He's useless at being the defensive player, mind you. Spot on on all accounts, especially his lack of defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 hes a decent player but cant see why people are licking there lips over him nothing above a decent player with a good pass on him, theres teams in the europa who would run rings round him. we need a creative midfielder not another defensive minded one to add to mccarthy barry besic however he is a good squad player. Yes. A good pass on him. One of the most important attributes a footballer can have, and the most important attribute a central midfielder could have. He has good vision and a great pass, which will help us create chances going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherpa Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) For me he is a creative player, just sits further back. Ok, he doesn't have control like Silva or Messi, but he's always had vision and the ability to pick out a forward pass, something we've been desperately missing. The amount of chances made from when he came one was probably more than the previous 3 Premiership games combined. He's useless at being the defensive player, mind you.Good post and spot on.What he brought on against Leicester was the urgency and forward passing we need and been desperately missing......Let's hope he stays fit as I think he will create more chances for Lukaku et al. Edited February 25, 2015 by Sherpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 People questioned the way I banged on about him. Top top player, always seen it, proper midfielder. I can understand the injury comments but on his day he's the best midfielder we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 No one questioned his quality, just the fact that he is made of glass. I remember you said he was a complete midfielder, which I disagree with. He's the best passer. At this moment we need that more than anything else. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 No one questioned his quality, just the fact that he is made of glass. I remember you said he was a complete midfielder, which I disagree with. He's the best passer. At this moment we need that more than anything else. I'd consider him complete within his job. He's not a defensive midfielder but can sit infront of the back four if asked. He's just not mobile enough to do McCarthys job. What Gibson is there to do is collect the ball lift his head up, pass forward or switch play. He's tremendous at it. He always shows for the ball and keeps the game ticking. Very rarely will you see him make a backward pass. He's so calm on the ball everything is measured. I still insist he's the best central midfielder at this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 I like to buy cars that are a year or two old and keep them forever - 200K miles at least. But, with some models, they break down much sooner than others. I spend a fortune on repairing that used car thinking I'll get a good long run out of it, then it break down again. Am I throwing good money after bad, or am I investing in the future?. You eventually get to the point where you realize all that money is a sunk cost, and you may never get it back. Despite everyone's best efforts, it just didn't work out - and it's better to sell it and buy something different. For me, it's the same with Gibson.What do you do when a talented player has such a poor injury record? While everyone wants Gibson to succeed, how likely is it that he'll have a long run without another injury? It's a tough decision to make. flaminfox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 I like to buy cars that are a year or two old and keep them forever - 200K miles at least. But, with some models, they break down much sooner than others. I spend a fortune on repairing that used car thinking I'll get a good long run out of it, then it break down again. Am I throwing good money after bad, or am I investing in the future?. You eventually get to the point where you realize all that money is a sunk cost, and you may never get it back. Despite everyone's best efforts, it just didn't work out - and it's better to sell it and buy something different. For me, it's the same with Gibson.What do you do when a talented player has such a poor injury record? While everyone wants Gibson to succeed, how likely is it that he'll have a long run without another injury? It's a tough decision to make. Wow, Hafnia's shite talk has really rubbed off on you. If I was asked who's post this was, with no username provided, I'd definitely say Hafnia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Wow, Hafnia's shite talk has really rubbed off on you. If I was asked who's post this was, with no username provided, I'd definitely say Hafnia. It's true, though, isn't it? How long do you wait for a player to have an extended run of good health - to make up for the losses incurred when he was out for repair? At some point, you have to make a decision. I'd rather have a Toyota that works than a Lotus that's always in the shop for repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 It's true, though, isn't it? How long do you wait for a player to have an extended run of good health - to make up for the losses incurred when he was out for repair? At some point, you have to make a decision. I'd rather have a Toyota that works than a Lotus that's always in the shop for repair. The points true. It's the reference to cars as people. Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 The points true. It's the reference to cars as people. Sorry. Showing my age, that's all. I remember the constant encouragement to our Austin 30 to make it up the hill: "Come on, girl. You can do it!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Wow, Hafnia's shite talk has really rubbed off on you. If I was asked who's post this was, with no username provided, I'd definitely say Hafnia. Asked who's post this is.... Well there is no debate. Belongs to an antagonistic bell end. Only a couple thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) The points true. It's the reference to cars as people. That's why they are called analogies. Using alternative examples to reinforce the same message. Some may say they strengthen an opinion. Clearly it depends on the iq of the person receiving the point. Edited February 26, 2015 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 That's why they are called analogies. Using alternative examples to reinforce the same message. Some may say they strengthen an opinion. Clearly it depends on the iq of the person receiving the point. Nope it's called bollocks talk. No need to reference cars. Just say he's injury prone. The end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Nope it's called bollocks talk. No need to reference cars. Just say he's injury prone. The end. This is where you try to be overly simplistic - to your own cost - Cornish has actually backed your argument if you look at it carefully... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Asked who's post this is.... Well there is no debate. Belongs to an antagonistic bell end. Only a couple thankfully. From a couple of pm's I've recieved, I can assure you there's more than a couple who think your 'Billy Bullshit'. Your a bit like a slow puncture in an old ford escort I once owned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 From a couple of pm's I've recieved, I can assure you there's more than a couple who think your 'Billy Bullshit'. Your a bit like a slow puncture in an old ford escort I once owned Oh my word, my shattered self worth will never recover from that... An old Ford escort? blimey I don't know what has surprised me more 1. You are old enough to drive 2. You passed some form of test that requires a minimum level of intelligence 3. That more than one person has ever PM'd you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Oh my word, my shattered self worth will never recover from that... An old Ford escort? blimey I don't know what has surprised me more 1. You are old enough to drive 2. You passed some form of test that requires a minimum level of intelligence 3. That more than one person has ever PM'd you Oh Billy Bullshit ! .......'Self worth' now that is funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Gibson is a great passer of the ball and his shot isn't half bad. He's not mobile, can't cover a lot of ground to help us defend when the full backs bomb forward, and he can't really take players on. He's also rarely been off the physio's table. If we are playing 4-3-3, he's got a role in the middle. He is a tenuous fit into our 4-2-1-3 system. I'd never wish to see him paired with Barry. It'd be like watching two St. Bernards trying to keep track of a bunch of greyhounds (yes, we've gone from cars to dogs in our analogies). I like Gibbo as a player, but, between his injury record and his limited range of abilities in a midfield role where we really need players who can do a fair bit of everything, if a solid offer came in for him, I'd think it's best if we let him go. Hopefully he gets a run of games, stays fit, and can either prove himself as worthy of continuing to receive his salary or makes himself look attractive to another club. If Gibson had stayed healthy all along, I think he'd be a regular starter for us today. But, he hasn't been there, and we've since had other players show themselves in the roles he could be expected to play. A bit of an enigma, this Gibbo. But the way some people are acting as if he is our savior, after his cameo the other day (don't forget the abysmal cross-field pass that he hit into no man's land), is a bit much. He's not shit, but he's not Xavi. Sibdane and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Gibson is a great passer of the ball and his shot isn't half bad. He's not mobile, can't cover a lot of ground to help us defend when the full backs bomb forward, and he can't really take players on. He's also rarely been off the physio's table. If we are playing 4-3-3, he's got a role in the middle. He is a tenuous fit into our 4-2-1-3 system. I'd never wish to see him paired with Barry. It'd be like watching two St. Bernards trying to keep track of a bunch of greyhounds (yes, we've gone from cars to dogs in our analogies). I like Gibbo as a player, but, between his injury record and his limited range of abilities in a midfield role where we really need players who can do a fair bit of everything, if a solid offer came in for him, I'd think it's best if we let him go. Hopefully he gets a run of games, stays fit, and can either prove himself as worthy of continuing to receive his salary or makes himself look attractive to another club. If Gibson had stayed healthy all along, I think he'd be a regular starter for us today. But, he hasn't been there, and we've since had other players show themselves in the roles he could be expected to play. A bit of an enigma, this Gibbo. But the way some people are acting as if he is our savior, after his cameo the other day (don't forget the abysmal cross-field pass that he hit into no man's land), is a bit much. He's not shit, but he's not Xavi. Good post that (loved the cars/dog bit also) ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Gibson is a great passer of the ball and his shot isn't half bad. He's not mobile, can't cover a lot of ground to help us defend when the full backs bomb forward, and he can't really take players on. He's also rarely been off the physio's table. If we are playing 4-3-3, he's got a role in the middle. He is a tenuous fit into our 4-2-1-3 system. I'd never wish to see him paired with Barry. It'd be like watching two St. Bernards trying to keep track of a bunch of greyhounds (yes, we've gone from cars to dogs in our analogies). I like Gibbo as a player, but, between his injury record and his limited range of abilities in a midfield role where we really need players who can do a fair bit of everything, if a solid offer came in for him, I'd think it's best if we let him go. Hopefully he gets a run of games, stays fit, and can either prove himself as worthy of continuing to receive his salary or makes himself look attractive to another club. If Gibson had stayed healthy all along, I think he'd be a regular starter for us today. But, he hasn't been there, and we've since had other players show themselves in the roles he could be expected to play. A bit of an enigma, this Gibbo. But the way some people are acting as if he is our savior, after his cameo the other day (don't forget the abysmal cross-field pass that he hit into no man's land), is a bit much. He's not shit, but he's not Xavi. Playing him down with things he can't do! (Which he's decent enough at). The difference here being he can do things the other 3 can't and that's actually play a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Could do with him finding his shooting range. I remember in his early days at United, he scored some rockets and got a name for himself that way. Dunno about anyone else, but when he gets 'into range', I find myself urging him to shoot??? Generally goes off target...but still!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) I remember in his early days at United, he scored some rockets and got a name for himself that way. This is overplayed massively - he scored 3 times for United, that's it! I urge him not to shoot, because most of them are absolutely shite. He needs to stick to what he's good it, which is passing not shooting. Edited February 27, 2015 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 This is overplayed massively - he scored 3 times for United, that's it! I urge him not to shoot, because most of them are absolutely shite. He needs to stick to what he's good it, which is passing not shooting. I think your right...just shows how the media like to hype a player. And it can grip you! Can't remember how many years ago it was...but I know I read papers at the times!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 This is overplayed massively - he scored 3 times for United, that's it! I urge him not to shoot, because most of them are absolutely shite. He needs to stick to what he's good it, which is passing not shooting. 10 apparently, and they're nearly all very special http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Features/2012/Jan/darron-gibson-goals-montage.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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