StevO Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 idea from another topic talking with Jimmy. with the truth and details of kirkby out in the open now (im not gunna put details of the lies or new found truths) a simple yes or no to the kirkby deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Closer than I'd have expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 even closer now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 The whole thing is tight. I think the presentation on the official site stating that Goodison Park will cost x million has influenced a lot of people (I think those numbers were plucked from thin air) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 It seems to me that if we have no Kirkby we may have no Moyes.....................he still hasn't signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Bit presumptuous that Jim! http://www.nsno.co.uk/e107_plugins/autogal...Ground-Move.flv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexKing Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Im atill bit out of this move in here Finland. Whats going on? Have there beeing any kind of change in atmosphere for more negative or positive about this move? For me the Goodison park is the one and only but i cant know all the facts simply cause i havent ever been in GP!!! (my dream wich its gonna be true) But Louis seems to live in Kirkby and i thought Louis is also very hardly against move to there. any change on this with you also Louis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Never agreed to the Kirkby vote in the first place but The shareholders voted not to alter the move and to keep the exclusive agreement with Tesco, I said at the time of the original ballot that the votes been taken and we have to live with it, i see this second unofficial vote as meaningless. It wont alter anything unless the government dont allow the plans, if that does happen there wont be any need for a second vote. We'll just have to live in hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Bit presumptuous that Jim! http://www.nsno.co.uk/e107_plugins/autogal...Ground-Move.flv Not at all Louis, that was speculation was quoted by Tony Cottee yesterday on SSN and it fully explains why this contract hasn't been signed, do you have a logical reason why it remains inkless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBri Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Not at all Louis, that was speculation was quoted by Tony Cottee yesterday on SSN and it fully explains why this contract hasn't been signed, do you have a logical reason why it remains inkless. Yes - The Bic biro's have all run out and they can't afford new ones after our expensive and prolific foray in to the transfer market this summer. Sorry. Couldn't resist. In truth, anything we say on here at the momoent is pure speculation, whether it be the Kirby move or Moyes contract and any possible link. Personally, I don't see what implication where we are playing will have on Moyes decision, unless it affects his managerial freedom and his ability to bring in new players. I agree that the second ballot is a waste of time, it's unofficial and just seems to me like a poor attempt to give those opposed to the move an opportunity to feel they have been heard. They already know they have been heard and not listened to. You don't need tons of ballots to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Not at all Louis, that was speculation was quoted by Tony Cottee yesterday on SSN and it fully explains why this contract hasn't been signed, do you have a logical reason why it remains inkless. I think its to do with transfer funds, I think if Moyes signs a contract he'll lose leverage to get more funds out of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 I think its to do with transfer funds, I think if Moyes signs a contract he'll lose leverage to get more funds out of the board. So therefore he will never sign a contract, sorry mate you have to be wrong. As Cottee speculated, Moyes is ambitious, he is basically happy at Goodison but wants the club to match his ambition and to do so they must have a new ground. If it was transfer funds he'd be out of order as the board have upped our record signing fee for the last four seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 So therefore he will never sign a contract, sorry mate you have to be wrong. As Cottee speculated, Moyes is ambitious, he is basically happy at Goodison but wants the club to match his ambition and to do so they must have a new ground. If it was transfer funds he'd be out of order as the board have upped our record signing fee for the last four seasons He had to sell two players from an already small squad for that to happen this season though. That's not too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everton_Worshiper Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 He had to sell two players from an already small squad for that to happen this season though. That's not too good. But that is business (speculate to accumulate). You are either a club with bags of money or you need to sell to buy, unfortunately we are the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 (edited) He had to sell two players from an already small squad for that to happen this season though. That's not too good. Mark, he never HAD to sell any player mate, he chose to sell Faddy and AJ wanted away. Both players have now been replaced so it is down to the ground move mate. Not long after he arrived at the club he said that he hated large squads as team spirit became far harder to engender, I'm not saying he wouldn't like two or three more but based on last season he has that now with Rodwell, Gosling and Baxter having tasted first team action already this season Edited September 9, 2008 by Jimmy the blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Depends what you mean by HAD, was he forced by the board? Probably not. Did he want to improve the squad and was told that funds were unlikely? Possibly. Did he NEED to improve the squad? Yes. He took the action that he thought would benefit the club (selling Mcfadden and AJ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Depends what you mean by HAD, was he forced by the board? Probably not. Did he want to improve the squad and was told that funds were unlikely? Possibly. Did he NEED to improve the squad? Yes. He took the action that he thought would benefit the club (selling Mcfadden and AJ) I mean HAD, as in forced to hence you agree with me Louis As funds were made available your comment has to be incorrect, there is no possible about an actual event. That is what I have said so it takes us back as to why he hasn't signed and the only outstanding issue is the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 But that is business (speculate to accumulate). You are either a club with bags of money or you need to sell to buy, unfortunately we are the latter. What I'm saying is that Moyes wasn't backed by the board this summer, he had to create the funds for himself by depleting out squad even further. Now that would piss any manager off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 What I'm saying is that Moyes wasn't backed by the board this summer, he had to create the funds for himself by depleting out squad even further. Now that would piss any manager off. Mark, he never had to sell anyone, both wanted to leave and in fact it was very good business especially AJ who remains injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Mark, he never had to sell anyone, both wanted to leave and in fact it was very good business especially AJ who remains injured Well my opinion is that Moyes did have to sell before he bought. Maybe not Faddy but I reckon he was toldhe had to sell someone this summer in order to raise the extra funds and DM decided that selling AJ would be the least detrimental to our team. If he hadn't sold AJ then I don't believe we'd have spent a penny this summer. I have my opinion and you have yours, that's fair enough, but don't act like yours is gospel (he never had to sell anyone) because you don't know either, it's just what you believe to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Well my opinion is that Moyes did have to sell before he bought. Maybe not Faddy but I reckon he was toldhe had to sell someone this summer in order to raise the extra funds and DM decided that selling AJ would be the least detrimental to our team. If he hadn't sold AJ then I don't believe we'd have spent a penny this summer. I have my opinion and you have yours, that's fair enough, but don't act like yours is gospel (he never had to sell anyone) because you don't know either, it's just what you believe to be the case. I'm sure Moyes would have said something if he had had to sell mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J*A*C*K*E*L*Z Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 I feel we need the move to bring in the big money backers One of the main attractions for the money men seems the be the stadium imo Its half the battle it was prooved that when all the talk of us gettin taken over was the day before it got called in then it all died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 jeez, i only started the poll to see where the split was across the fan base, a small section i know, but only out of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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