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Looks like Pickford just can't seem to manage not to look like an utter lunatic for us.

If any 'bigger' team is happy to cough up some money for him I'd be more than happy for him to go.

4 hours ago, patto said:

Surely it makes sense for City to sign him instead of Kane a 2 year contract would cost possibly 50m 

Imagine Kane's face hearing that announcement

Kenny does seem destined to spend his career at Burnley. It just feels right.

Hopefully we have a second choice lined up who we can get over the line.

7 hours ago, Goodison Glory said:

Villa are selling Grealish and have probably known that all summer. If we knew that we were selling say Richarlison then I am sure you'd see more of what you expect.

Like when we sold Lukaku? I honestly don't believe that.

1 hour ago, MikeO said:

Think he sometimes posts some sense, but inconsistent for me, needs to work on his prose.

How long have you been waiting for the opportunity to crack that one ?

Well it's not going well so far is it? Gray and Townsend whilst Villa sign Buendia and probably Bailey. These are the players we should be going for. It's difficult to have any hope of achieving anything this season. It's been a bit embarrassing from the minute Ancelotti left really with obvious things out of the club's control but nevertheless many things fully in the club's control.

8 minutes ago, SpartyBlue said:

I’m not sure if I agree he’s our best player overall. We need the creativity for sure but he’s our worst defensive player every time he’s on the pitch, by a mile. Plus he’s fragile so the odds of getting 30+ games from him are minuscule. I think a guy like Richie is better once you consider his overall game and you can make a case for a couple others. Important for us for sure but his deficiencies, like his left foot , stand out 

I feel he is the only player capable of having a good enough season to get us into Europe (capable as in if he stays fit) although I do understand your point on his fragility. If he could play 38 games a season he probably wouldn't be here would he?

Just read the comments from Wednesday onwards & this is the most unified I've seen a thread on here in years

I think he's fantastic, although in the same breath can be one of our most frustrating players. His attitude can be petulant and I feel that was his biggest issue towards the end of the last campaign.

After his numbers last year I doubt anyone would take a gamble on him, hopefully he fires for us this season coming and we get a huge fee for him if he is wanting to leave.

Overall he's our best player, hands down.

The one thing he isn't though is a runner and the team are required to work harder to accommodate for that, which effects the overall balance of the team. I can see why Rafa might want to rid him, although I don't think the rumours are true.  I'd really like to see how he operates behind the striker in a 4231.

2 hours ago, Shukes said:

All I know is that in the two friendliest so far, Gray has arguably looked our best player.

He's looked hungry hasn't he? I know the opposition's quality hasn't been great but I didn't realise how good his feet were.

I can't believe Kane keeps getting mentioned in this thread

8 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Real Madrid just got 41m for Varane, I think they will have enough dough.

Their finances aren't the best, however my point is more focused on the fact that we paid £35m and he's still under contract until 2024. My guess is a reasonable fee would be around double what we paid.  Real Madrid could get a lot more quality with £70m than Richarlison.

1 minute ago, MikeO said:

Keane for me.

I'd like it to go to Digne I think. Keane for me is too mentally fragile.

I can't see any team meeting whatever valuation Everton have of Richarlison this summer.

I think the best question to ask is who does Rafa choose to have the armband when Seamus is not on the pitch.

A loan deal would be nice. I'd like us to get linked to more players that aren't wingers now.

If teams are struggling to pay his wages it looks like we might have to bite the bullet and pay some of his wages when we sell him. I would have thought Tosun to be more ambitious and more willing to drop a wage to play regularly, apparently not.

8 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Well it's certainly a better model than spending £8m quid and £130k a week on the likes of Delph isn't it. 

The lad has raw attributes and for me those attributes arent available elsewhere in the squad.  I'd sooner have him than Walcott. 

A far better model, yes. Just need to find the quality for a decent fee now (easier said than done)!

10 minutes ago, SpartyBlue said:

You’re making my point for me. The amount invested in an average Everton 1st team player (including transfer fees) over a 3 year span has to be over 25m. Gray costs a fraction so the level he needs to produce to be good value for money is far lower than our average guy. Just being a player we have for cover who gets time in some cup games to give starters a rest is worth 7.5m over several years in today’s market. The frustration comes when you get a Bolassie or an Iwobi who we’ve heavily invested in. Gray is a flier. If it works out then great, if it doesn’t *shrug*. He’s shown enough to be worth a relatively small gamble. There is far more upside than downside here. 

It is a small gamble, I agree. Evertonians are are never happy though and I don't intend on starting now

4 hours ago, SpartyBlue said:

It’s good business either way. Would be like saying it’s only a good pass if you end up scoring. Very low risk, reasonable upside. 

The value of a player matters as much at £1.5m as it does £150m. You want a return for your investment. My guess (and not to put a downer on things) is that Grey will be a frustrating player to watch and we will be waiting to shift him like the rest of the players currently still infesting our squad.

If we pay £1.5m upfront and £2m a year in wages for him, it'll be £7.5m over 3 years wasted. That would not be 'good business'.

It's only good business if he performs well. I'll be surprised if he does, but I'm hopeful.

4 hours ago, chicagoblue said:

 

Could be good, but we're just not spending that kind of money.  He's vital to Burnley. Would be like Gylfi and Swansea all over again, worth so much more to them than to us and not worth the money.

 

If he were in the last year or last 6 months and available for 5-10M then sure.

I'm not sure how much Burnley would need the money in the current climate. Possibly drive down his price a little bit? £25m seems like a reasonable fee for a player of his quality.

5 hours ago, c1982 said:

This is the kind of signing I DO NOT want - he did well at West Ham but we’d be spending (wasting in my opinion) a big fee and wages on someone who has no resale and isn’t great. I’m fine with Townsend on a free and I’m fine with taking a chance on Gray for such a low fee but this, to me, is a prime example of what’s got us into this mess e.g same bracket as Walcott, Bolasie, Sigurdsson, Tosun.

Well put. Plus I can see him becoming the player he was at United. A useless nothing player.

2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

Merged.

The search function is a wonderful thing .

sassy pants.