Avinalaff

* Takes one step back from the edge

That never crossed my mind Marco. Damn.

Fuck me, is it pick on Avinalaff week ? :dont know:

Tell me about it mate - story of my life.

With 'the possibility' of Martinez coming in ........... There might be a twist in the tale yet Haf.

You lot really are thicko's lol. Every time it's your round, you sod off to the toilet.

You must be in the bog then at the time of writing.

Blueboy122 - I'm far too old to hold grudges with guys on here, and will have forgotten about your comments by the time I've finished my afternoon cup of tea, so why not consider cooling down a little, and let what happens happen, before the stresses of the occasion spoil the enjoyment of the forum for everybody? Everybody is concerned about the same thing, and everybody wants the best for the club.

Barton acting debut.

Let's look at what he actually did to strengthen their defence, and he needed to, as if being beaten 9-1 by Spurs wasn't warning enough: Defenders signed since 2009: G.Caldwell - cost 500k Gohouri - released 3 years later Amaya - sold 2 years later for peanuts Pistu - on a free R.Stam - cost £2m Alcaraz - on a free - S.Caldwell - on a free - released following year Aanholt - loan from Chavs Kiernan - released after 1 season Golobart - Loaned out Ramis £5m Hardly a huge effort to sort his defence out. :dont know:

I gave you the opportunity to be civil and you blew it, so do me a favour and piss off.

I should also point out that the other years weren't much better. 09-10 Goals for 37 / against 79 10-11 Goals for 40 / against 61 11-12 Goals for 42 / against 62 12-13 Goals for 47 / against 73 I'm sorry, but no matter how good folk feel they play, these figures are abysmal. In 4 years, he did not address any problems.

I had to say I chuckled that the very next line after stating you wanted to discuss Everton was about Wigan. Wigan came to the Prem in 2005 under Jewell, who resigned 2 years later, and I'm sure you know that his assistant got the job, before Steve Bruce had a bash. In their first season, they finished above Everton in 10th place, and this was before they bought the big names etc who have since been sold. They since finished 17th, 14th, 11th with Bruce going to Sunderland before Martinez took over. Under Martinez, they finished 16th, 16th, 15th, and 18th (Relegated). That's not 'my opinion' of Martinez. It's fact, sourced from looking at their stats. As for your suggestion that they relied upon attack, they didn't score enough goals to do this. If you look at the table, their goals scored in the season was only 47 goals in 38 matches. They actually conceded 73, so that kind of puts pay to any suggestion that they could get by, by scoring. They didn't, and the rest is history. Now, I'm not saying Martinez is a bad manager, or a good one, but when you compare him to the managers in the 5 teams who finished above us, it kind of puts things into perspective, especially if we are to move forwards. Ferguson Mancini Benitez / Mourinho Wenger Villas Boas He might get lucky, and if he comes, I hope he does, but we shouldn't hire somebody based on myth, and that is what is happening regarding this so called 'fantastic football' that he plays. It proved with Wigan to be none productive, and a recipe for relegation.

If you look at the motm threads from Swansea onwards (post Christmas) we were all slating him for poor performances since getting called up http://www.toffeetalk.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&fromMainBar=1

* Premiership Premier League, not that it matters.

I'll write what I feel at the time mate, and if you don't like it, move on to another opinion until you find one you agree with. I won't write the 'popular post' just to fit in. I'm not the only fan who doesn't want Martinez as manager, but if he gets the job, then my negativity towards him will cease, and he will be judged upon results, and supported accordingly. Until he gets it though, and I can tell you he might not, then I'll be considering his Premiership managerial record as below standard. If that doesn't sit well with you, put me on ignore. I think that's reasonable.

What on earth is your problem mate? You don't call another member a tit just because you don't like their opinion. I was being tongue in cheek with the Championship thing. You were out of line, so why not pipe down.

Heck, I can't even say it slow. I was fine until you mentioned it ha ha.

Knobbeth offeth Haf. I can understand a clown like Blueboy122 thinking I was serious about us being relegated, but you should know me better than that.

Some guys have zilch sense of humour Cake.

I'd have preferred it to have come from our club. Whelan was quick to point out that Kenwright was a gentleman, and then spills the beans on our potential new manager. Not really returning a gentlemanly gesture.

Who the fuck are you calling a tit ?

I thought for a minute it was Wigan fans making sure Martinez didn't miss his Everton bound taxi.

I'd divorce her Mike for not ensuring your tinnies were well catered for. It's not like they have fuck all else to do all day. At least drinking is doing something.

Championship is supposed to be lovely this time of year.