i dont think he ever had them to start with though lets be honest now, under Moyes we have always been fairly defensive, he is rigid with 4-5-1 which a few seasons ago worked nicely, but others have seen the flaws and changed, so why won't Moyes? because what he's doing at the moment aint working and the only difference really is Beckford, who lets face it was crap anyway, Arteta was always injured anyway, and when fit he had lost his way a while back, so i don't see the team is actually that different from before, it is a results game, and our results are not there, they are all over the fucking shop