How so? Moyes at any other club would have been sacked long time ago, i think it's a perfect topic for discussion, problem is Avin, most people don't want the club to get relegated, and see the club in turmoil, the same stuff is going to come up again an again, because it's not getting sorted by the people at the club ie: the manager, chairman. Difference is, you seem quite happy if the club goes down for a season like Newcastle did, and re-builds, when tbh, its only tweaking that needs to be done, its having the money, and is Moyes the man to spend it?