SimonButtle

this is the same coaching team that watched Saha every day, and also thought Bily was a winger? think i will wait till the end of the season and see if we still have him(doubt it, but will see)

Yeah i was thinking that, we have all been told off now

ive been watching a thing on the Crime channel recently which has been all to do with prohibition and Capone, last nights one was to do with Tony Accardo who took over the Chicago mob after Capone had been sent to Alcatraz, he then went on to expand the mobs gambling enterprise to a national scale, a very interesting character and not gangster like at all, he adopted a few kids with his wife as he thought that was a worthwhile cause, and his family always came before business, but he was one of the most feared mob figures of all time, and he never went to prison in his life, died of old age in 1992.

Yeah it was me, you could hear it on the Sky Sports pitch microphone lol

If Moyes wanted Drenthe to show more he would be in the team, Drenthe could not even get a game against the team who are bottom of the league, There is no doubt the boy has something but it's very raw and he is not 16,17 he is 24? The problem as i see it is similar to when Ronaldo first came to Man Utd, He was doing 20 stepovers and falling flat on his arse everytime anyone went near him, which quickly resulted in criticism from his own fans. Taggart saw this straight away and new that it needed to be knocked out of him, and Ronaldo learned to do the stepovers in the right place at the right time, making him the player he is now. With Drenthe thats what we need to do, but we have no attack minded coaches or even any senior players with attack-minded skill level who can help Drenthe out and teach him the tricks of the trade so to speak. Moyes as we know seems to have the word "attack" missing from his dictionary which is why i don't feel we will ever get the best from Drenthe because he won't get the appropriate guidance at EFC, its a sad fact but imo true, hence why i don't think we will keep him on.

Just blaming the pitch yesterday, Moyes has sunk to a new low for me.

No lol but if you can sit there and honestly say that you don't think something weird is going on there, then maybe you should be

Something has clearly gone on there and i hope we see him again before he leaves in the summer(probably) but the fact that the u21 team recognise him as a player yet his own club don't seem to, something stinks to high heaven about the whole Moyes/Barkley situation.

Gave it to Pienaar but only just he did start to fade in the second half

And lets be honest if Moyes was going to keep Drenthe he would have been signed up by now, Drenthe is a one trick pony and imo we won't sign him and he will go back to madrid at the end of the season, whilst i see what you are saying with regards to Pienaar, i can see us keeping him over Drenthe

Horrified at todays tactics and some of the individual performances, don't care how great he is in the dressing room, but Neville should not be anywhere near the first team ever again, Fellaini was shit after he got moved up front. he can't play there, he has'nt got the vision or passing for it and it resulted in standard Distin/Heitinga/Hibbert/Neville hoofball hoping Felli would knock it down or on, completely pointless, Donovan again looked a bit lost in periods of the game, and im yet to be convinced by Gibson, i think the fact alone that Anichebe rescued the game for us say's it all. Im really not sure what the answer is, Moyes is far too negative, even if it is Kenwright someone needs to grab hold of him and say, listen David this is not acceptable at the moment, i really don't know, but it can't go on.

We are being carved open by Wigan FFS!! ooh Anichebe that really fills me with confidence that does, it's taken till the 81st min to go 4-4-2, bloody ridiculous Moyes i take back what i said Victor

FFS Drenthe on NOW!!!

god we are so shit, why bring in new players when clearly we are going to still play same old neg crap

1 up front against Wigan it's a bloody joke

Inspector Clueless strikes again!!

WTF!! Cahill off for Neville???

He has done ok though when given a chance, get Cahill off and go 2 up front

Well so far Cahill is having a stinker, Gibson needs to remember his team mates are the ones in the yellow shirts today, not the blue ones, and you would'nt even know that Donovan was playing, and Distin looks short of match practice imo. Drenthe to come on defo, and possibly Jelly also

Back to the usual routine today then it seems

Need to help Hibbert out somehow he's getting caught, we look a bit ropey at the back

don't think so, him and Barkley seem to have lost out

no Vellios although thank god Neville has been dropped

him and cahill are just garunteed places in the team it seems, it drives me mad, Neville should be nowhere near that team.