SimonButtle

Winds me right up, you know he will end up at West Ham or QPR when really we should be moving for players like this, especially on a free.

It's a free transfer though, surely a no brainer, at least try.

haha yes Dad the prospect of both Owen's is quite scary tbh

I would have thought that 28 was around prime age for a player

I only know what ive been told by journalists themselves, they would be libel to all sorts if they went round making stuff up all the time, the majority of it comes from agents or the clubs themselves trying to deflect attention away from other things, but thats what i know as the working way.

Hargreaves, i was being a bit sarcastic, based on the fact he has'nt played for god knows how many years, really do we need to be looking at the likes of him

Owen?

Its NOT rubbish though, Baines was apparently asking to leave since last summer, ask Mark, he's heard about it, Baines will be gone in a few weeks whether we like it or not, the only thing i might agree with you on is the price, but from what i know the club are prepared to do a deal. This i guess is where all the Richardson links are coming from as a possible replacment

they don't just make these stories up you know, it's mostly agents feeding them information, i have 2 journo's in my family and im fed up of seeing the comments 'lazy journalism" i shall translate it "shit scared fans" if they went round making it up all the time they would get sued all over the place, and from what i know the club are happy to deal at £15m, Moyes is just desperate to get Pienaar in.

we would have needed 11 of those and a different manager to win that semi final, it was a disgrace

Well, i would never have said that Park was in the Pienaar mould tbh

i am aware of that, but he is hardly the type of player we are desperate for, and we were linked last week, we have plenty of workhorse types, don't need another imo.

Exactly the reason why there is no real point to signing the likes of Park Ji Sung, even if they are available, the benefits to most in terms of commercial value are meaningless to us because of the stupid kitbag deal.

I agree Matt, on his goals record alone and in an easier league, he has go to be worth around the £5m price range.

Moyes suggests that Cahill has another 2 or 3 seasons to contribute..er well it took him a year to score his last goal, he slouched round the pitch most of the season. Think Moyes needs to re-watch last season and see how much Cahill has too offer.

its probably the best thing and the right time

no, just a tad jealous thats all lol

Well we need to sign him first then we will see, in all fairness Osman seems to have been ok over the years. Also if you look at Aguero when he takes his shirt off, thats all muscle, its not natural build its gym work you can tell.

I do agree with you with regards to Agbonlahor, but the likes of Aguero and Tevez, Rooney very stocky but can still move, its more to do with fitness imo.

You don't lose pace, plenty of big players who can shift, but yeah i can see what your saying though, the big question is though, does he defend enough? otherwise we will never see that pace and trickery because Moyes will drain it out of him in no time.

Do you not think Ince would get knocked off the ball quite easy against premier league defenders then He looks as though he would need to bulk up a bit

Looks a good player, a bit lightweight maybe, echo's of SWP about him.

The players are all going to get dossiers telling them how to behave like good little boys then

Just from seeing him on the sidelines he looked exhausted at times and they have had a few dodgy results this season where you could see in his face at the end of the game he was like "do i really need this shit anymore"